A new and better FBS thread

[unbison]

If we move up..: beating Iowa st gets us no press neither does Colorado st or many of the other games... We become western Michigan or Wyoming and that's not cool.... Sagarian is great and all and I know you guys live and die by it.... I think it often rates us higher then we should be.... How many sec teams do you think we could beat and how many were we ranked ahead of is my train of thought

[Herd12]

I agree that if P5 teams are done playing us now that we need to take a more serious look at what's going on. I agree with what Gene Taylor and Matt Larsen have said, though: we need to wait and see how college football as a whole pans out. We have no idea if the P5 are going to break away or not. If they do, then we move up. NDSU should always be a part of the second highest level of D1. If we can't get an FBS game on the schedule in 2017 or 2018 things need to be reevaluated. It might be time to start looking at games like Hawaii or Ball State again, but in what way does that help our exposure?

[MNLonghorn10]

What question is that.

It's the first paragraph of the post

[bisonaudit]

If we move up..: beating Iowa st gets us no press neither does Colorado st or many of the other games... We become western Michigan or Wyoming and that's not cool.... Sagarian is great and all and I know you guys live and die by it.... I think it often rates us higher then we should be.... How many sec teams do you think we could beat and how many were we ranked ahead of is my train of thought

We were ranked ahead of 3 SEC teams. South Carolina, Kentucky and Vandy.

[onbison09]

Just listened to Klieman's interview with Dom and Klopack. He said it's harder for everyone to get FBS games (especially us with our success) due to the playoff. I get that, but how many teams in a conference really have a chance to make it? 4 or 5 tops?

[El_Chapo]

It's the first paragraph of the post

Let me answer that for you. MAC schools hosting P5 teams (NDSU could do this!!)
http://csnbbs.com/thread-722809.html

2015
Michigan state @ WMU
Oklahoma St @ CMU
Iowa st @ Toledo
Pitt @ Akron

2016
Kansas @ CMU
Boston college at NIU

2017
Kansas @ Ohio

2018
Miami FL at Toledo
Maryland at NIU

[td577]

If we move up..: beating Iowa st gets us no press neither does Colorado st or many of the other games... We become western Michigan or Wyoming and that's not cool.... Sagarian is great and all and I know you guys live and die by it.... I think it often rates us higher then we should be.... How many sec teams do you think we could beat and how many were we ranked ahead of is my train of thought

I don't recall saying sagarin is absolute. I said it is the only tool given the lack of play between sub-divisions. It has also proven to be fairly good at putting teams in the right ballpark. Is NDSU the 32nd best team in the nation? Probably not. I would say they are probably somewhere between 25-39. I would also say Marshall is between 16-30. Since they are in the ballpark relative if their ranking, it is just easier to refer to them as their ranking.

Btw, NDSU would be competitive with anyone in the country ranked outside the top 12 or so which includes a lot of P5 schools and even some SEC ones.

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[JMB]

If we move up..: beating Iowa st gets us no press neither does Colorado st or many of the other games... We become western Michigan or Wyoming and that's not cool.... Sagarian is great and all and I know you guys live and die by it.... I think it often rates us higher then we should be.... How many sec teams do you think we could beat and how many were we ranked ahead of is my train of thought

Case in point... Consider our friends Georgia Southern. Last year, in the first year of transition they beat Florida, a National Powerhouse. Now granted, Florida is having a bad year, however, so is every FBS team we play (just ask their fans). How much play did the Georgia Southern win get? Did ESPN Gameday talk about showing up? Now granted, the victory was at the end of the year which had some to do with it, but our FBS wins, coupled with our titles, coupled with our winning streak, coupled with our devoted fan base is what makes us an interesting story.

[MNLonghorn10]

Case in point... Consider our friends Georgia Southern. Last year, in the first year of transition they beat Florida, a National Powerhouse. Now granted, Florida is having a bad year, however, so is every FBS team we play (just ask their fans). How much play did the Georgia Southern win get? Did ESPN Gameday talk about showing up? Now granted, the victory was at the end of the year which had some to do with it, but our FBS wins, coupled with our titles, coupled with our winning streak, coupled with our devoted fan base is what makes us an interesting story.

It got pub. And they'll still be playing those games when the FBS doesn't play these games anymore.

Hard to get the pub when the games no longer exist.

[NorthernBison]

I don't recall saying sagarin is absolute. I said it is the only tool given the lack of play between sub-divisions. It has also proven to be fairly good at putting teams in the right ballpark. Is NDSU the 32nd best team in the nation? Probably not. I would say they are probably somewhere between 25-39. I would also say Marshall is between 16-30. Since they are in the ballpark relative if their ranking, it is just easier to refer to them as their ranking.

Btw, NDSU would be competitive with anyone in the country ranked outside the top 12 or so which includes a lot of P5 schools and even some SEC ones.

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So, other than the 2013 team, the other 3 Championship teams would be scrambling to get a Bowl invite. Even at 13-1 Marshall wasn't even in the discussion for a playoff. We could have gotten a better Bowl invite if we were in the MWC and won the Championship there. Any idea how we'd have fared against Boise State?