A new and better FBS thread

[taper]

I just want to make sure that all the "wait-for-split" and "FCS-is-going-to-merge-with-the-G5" people understand that they are waiting for something that will never, ever happen. One day they will wake up and NDSU will be forever encased in the third-level of CFB, but then that seems to be what they want - to move backwards, not forward. Nostalgia and such ...

I would also like to yet again remind people that the "FCS Forever" crowd doesn't exist. Thinking that there should be 3 tiers of D1 football and waiting for that to happen are two very, very different things.

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https://www.si.com/college/2022/04/2...ision-1-change

"Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick told Sports Illustrated that he believes the breakup of college sports at the NCAA Division I level is 'inevitable' and puts a potential target date on that seismic change as the mid-2030s"

"Absent a national standard*, which I don’t see coming, I think it’s inevitable" Swarbrick said. "Mid-30s would be the logical time"


* Gee I wonder who he’s referring to?

So the long-awaited FB "split", which is shaping up to occur WITHIN the P5 and not between the G5 and P5, is more than 10 years away

Interesting that the AD of Notre Dame, who has a cozy half in/half out relationship with the ACC would put a time line of the mid-2030s for this to happen. Doesn't the ACC GOR expire in 2036? Why yes it does.

Unless something changes, that is when the ACC blows up and some head to the Big Ten and some head to the SEC. PAC will then be affected with the top properties from that conference headed to either the BIG or SEC. Major college football will be the BIG/SEC. The next level will be whatever remains of the P5 plus some G5 moves ups. Rest of G5 and FCS below that.

It's already started with the Big 12. None of those schools will make the cut because if they could they'd already have left. It's already a leftovers and G5 move-ups conference.

[BigHorns]

Interesting that the AD of Notre Dame, who has a cozy half in/half out relationship with the ACC would put a time line of the mid-2030s for this to happen. Doesn't the ACC GOR expire in 2036? Why yes it does.

Unless something changes, that is when the ACC blows up and some head to the Big Ten and some head to the SEC. PAC will then be affected with the top properties from that conference headed to either the BIG or SEC. Major college football will be the BIG/SEC. The next level will be whatever remains of the P5 plus some G5 moves ups. Rest of G5 and FCS below that.

It's already started with the Big 12. None of those schools will make the cut because if they could they'd already have left. It's already a leftovers and G5 move-ups conference.

This is what I see developing also by mid 2030's
Tier 1: SEC/B1G. (This is pro/semi-pro with $100M+ yearly budgets)
Tier 2: Remaining P5 and upper G5 that join them
Tier 3: Remaining G5 and upper FCS that will join

I don't think ALL of FCS will be Tier 3, but I do think it will include a good number of schools from MVFC, Big Sky and CAA.

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

This is what I see developing also by mid 2030's
Tier 1: SEC/B1G. (This is pro/semi-pro with $100M+ yearly budgets)
Tier 2: Remaining P5 and upper G5 that join them
Tier 3: Remaining G5 and upper FCS that will join

I don't think ALL of FCS will be Tier 3, but I do think it will include a good number of schools from MVFC, Big Sky and CAA.

So, reading between the lines of your post, NDSU stays the course and remains in FCS until this hypothetical realignment occurs in 2035 or so.

Got it … Thanks for clarification. Admin could just come out and say it and put this while thing to bed. I wonder why they don’t

Sorry but that most def sounds like FCS forever, at least to me. Best of luck with it all …

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So, reading between the lines of your post, NDSU stays the course and remains in FCS until this hypothetical realignment occurs in 2035 or so.

Got it … Thanks for clarification. Admin could just come out and say it and put this while thing to bed. I wonder why they don’t

Sorry but that most def sounds like FCS forever, at least to me. Best of luck with it all …

Making a prediction about what will happen is not the same thing as wanting it to happen. ~10 years isn't forever either. FCS Forever doesn't exist, just stop with that stupid strawman.

[NDSU1980]

This is what I see developing also by mid 2030's
Tier 1: SEC/B1G. (This is pro/semi-pro with $100M+ yearly budgets)
Tier 2: Remaining P5 and upper G5 that join them
Tier 3: Remaining G5 and upper FCS that will join
Tier 4: NDSU and Matt Larsen waiting for an FBS opportunity

I don't think ALL of FCS will be Tier 3, but I do think it will include a good number of schools from MVFC, Big Sky and CAA.

Fixed your post

[NDSU92]

Making a prediction about what will happen is not the same thing as wanting it to happen. ~10 years isn't forever either. FCS Forever doesn't exist, just stop with that stupid strawman.

If we're still FCS in 10 years we'll lose over half the fanbase, and that includes me. My first sports memory was the MSUM game in 2000. Grew up in north Fargo, went to every home game I possibly could between that MSUM game and when I graduated college and moved out of state in 2015. Still watch every game, but that's starting to slide. Pay thousands into my parents' season tickets group so that they'll keep them. 10 more years in FCS is forever.

I guess the good news is that if we're still FCS at that point the games will be more competitive. Our program won't continue at this clip with 5k attendance games.

[Hammerhead]

What about the Pac-12 schools with big budgets like Oregon and USC? I can't see Uncle Phil (Knight) being happy that Ducks football isn't at the highest level of competition.

This is what I see developing also by mid 2030's
Tier 1: SEC/B1G. (This is pro/semi-pro with $100M+ yearly budgets)
Tier 2: Remaining P5 and upper G5 that join them
Tier 3: Remaining G5 and upper FCS that will join

I don't think ALL of FCS will be Tier 3, but I do think it will include a good number of schools from MVFC, Big Sky and CAA.

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

What about the Pac-12 schools with big budgets like Oregon and USC? I can't see Uncle Phil (Knight) being happy that Ducks football isn't at the highest level of competition.

Yeah, I don't think that's a very likely scenario myself.

Assuming this all ever happens, the big question is - which level is Bison FB on? 2 or 3? Just have to be there to find out I guess.

I have no problem with NDSU ditching the MVFC and going FBS without any of the other Dakota schools, just in case you were wondering. No problem whatsoever.

In somewhat related news - https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...president-2023

Hope springs eternal

[CAS4127]

Interesting that the AD of Notre Dame, who has a cozy half in/half out relationship with the ACC would put a time line of the mid-2030s for this to happen. Doesn't the ACC GOR expire in 2036? Why yes it does.

Unless something changes, that is when the ACC blows up and some head to the Big Ten and some head to the SEC. PAC will then be affected with the top properties from that conference headed to either the BIG or SEC. Major college football will be the BIG/SEC. The next level will be whatever remains of the P5 plus some G5 moves ups. Rest of G5 and FCS below that.

It's already started with the Big 12. None of those schools will make the cut because if they could they'd already have left. It's already a leftovers and G5 move-ups conference.

The “prestigious” Norte Dame scheduled a game against an FCS opponent in the name of diversity. It so happens that that school is an HBCU …. Sounds like diversity to me.