A new and better FBS thread

[El_Chapo]

So pondering this… what do we as a state gain with a fbs football team?
Publicity…. Really unsure about if we would garner anymore then We have
If it takes more taxpayer money please justify it to me so I can understand it….

#1 w a bullet= not dying a slow death like we are now with Bison fatigue & general malaise.
#2 putting NDSU in the right level of football.
#3 Increasing our other sports level of play, watching AAC & MWC BB tournaments were light years past summit
#4 better recruits/athletes & putting NDSU far & away the obvious regional choice & even cut into Minn/Wisc/Iowa.

[JMB]

#1 w a bullet= not dying a slow death like we are now with Bison fatigue & general malaise.
#2 putting NDSU in the right level of football.
#3 Increasing our other sports level of play, watching AAC & MWC BB tournaments were light years past summit
#4 better recruits/athletes & putting NDSU far & away the obvious regional choice & even cut into Minn/Wisc/Iowa.

I am not sure you answered his question at all...

[El_Chapo]

I am not sure you answered his question at all...

answered the question immaculately

[bisonaudit]

answered the question immaculately

It was a perfect phone call.

[taper]

I am not sure you answered his question at all...

Lakes has a long history of answering questions...and the exact opposite being true. Blocking him vastly improves the BV experience, but since you quoted his post:
#1 - Football interest is falling nationwide. Probably a novelty bump at first but if we start turning in 6-8 win seasons against quality opponents don't expect sell out crowds every week.
#2 - The right level is with our peer institutions. Until the NCAA splits D1 into 3 subdivisions we're stuck in the middle with neither being right. TBF this is the most reasonable of his points.
#3 - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Travel will kill olympics if we don't form a regional conference.
#4 - We already have this. There are no G5s in our best recruiting areas and we get our pick of the litter from anyone that isn't a P5 starter.

[BigLakeBison]

Lakes has a long history of answering questions...and the exact opposite being true. Blocking him vastly improves the BV experience, but since you quoted his post:
#1 - Football interest is falling nationwide. Probably a novelty bump at first but if we start turning in 6-8 win seasons against quality opponents don't expect sell out crowds every week.
#2 - The right level is with our peer institutions. Until the NCAA splits D1 into 3 subdivisions we're stuck in the middle with neither being right. TBF this is the most reasonable of his points.
#3 - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Travel will kill olympics if we don't form a regional conference.
#4 - We already have this. There are no G5s in our best recruiting areas and we get our pick of the litter from anyone that isn't a P5 starter.

#1 - FOOTBALL ATTENDANCE is falling nationwide. Football interest nationwide I would argue is as strong as ever. The key is going to be finding ways to monetize interest if attendance is declining. The P5 does this with massive TV contracts that have made attendance less relevant to them. So far tickets sold for NDSU haven't been as impacted as season ticket sales have still been good. Butts in the seats are dropping. If season ticket sales drop significantly than it will hit NDSU's budget hard because football is the majority of ticket sale revenue for the entire athletic department currently.

#2 - NDSU is an outlier geographically and so are our regional peers. However, institution wise we don't belong in FCS. There are maybe 10 institutions in the FCS that could be considered our peers.

#3 - Our regional conference is stagnating our olympics currently because we justify our low investment in them based on what others in the Summit spend.

#4 - I would agree that this is mostly true. Having the FBS label might win a small number of additional recruiting battles but even if we move to the FBS we are going to continue to succeed by being a developmental program.

[ByeSonBusiness]

#1 - FOOTBALL ATTENDANCE is falling nationwide. Football interest nationwide I would argue is as strong as ever. The key is going to be finding ways to monetize interest if attendance is declining. The P5 does this with massive TV contracts that have made attendance less relevant to them. So far tickets sold for NDSU haven't been as impacted as season ticket sales have still been good. Butts in the seats are dropping. If season ticket sales drop significantly than it will hit NDSU's budget hard because football is the majority of ticket sale revenue for the entire athletic department currently.

#2 - NDSU is an outlier geographically and so are our regional peers. However, institution wise we don't belong in FCS. There are maybe 10 institutions in the FCS that could be considered our peers.

#3 - Our regional conference is stagnating our olympics currently because we justify our low investment in them based on what others in the Summit spend.

#4 - I would agree that this is mostly true. Having the FBS label might win a small number of additional recruiting battles but even if we move to the FBS we are going to continue to succeed by being a developmental program.

Yeah Chapo seems to think NDSU's recruiting would go to the moon if FBS but I dont think thats likely or even necessary. Still would have less to offer than the P5's, still would have more to offer than local FCS, and would be on an equal footing with G5 schools, but I'm pretty sure we already are on a relatively even footing with them recruiting wise.

I bet more recruits would be given stars, or go from 2 stars to 3 stars. That is an artificial boost though rather than an actual boost.

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[heffray]

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[BigLakeBison]

Yeah Chapo seems to think NDSU's recruiting would go to the moon if FBS but I dont think thats likely or even necessary. Still would have less to offer than the P5's, still would have more to offer than local FCS, and would be on an equal footing with G5 schools, but I'm pretty sure we already are on a relatively even footing with them recruiting wise.

I bet more recruits would be given stars, or go from 2 stars to 3 stars. That is an artificial boost though rather than an actual boost.

I would agree with that.