A new and better FBS thread

[Professorbum]

Are you saying we had an invite but declined?

Well, the reports are that, at the prospect of an invite, we told CUSA to pound sand. I don't know who else we may have told to pound sand over the years.

[BigHorns]

Well, the reports are that, at the prospect of an invite, we told CUSA to pound sand. I don't know who else we may have told to pound sand over the years.

They also supposedly sent out feelers to half of fcs to figure out what options they had.
Its rumored Missouri St and others said no also.

[B.Schlossman Fan Club]

The PAC won't be instantly gutted, and neither will the MWC.
Just because everyone fled CUSA doesn't mean everyone leaves the MWC.
And even if that happened so what? MWC can load up on MVFC and Big Sky teams and end up a helluva lot stronger than the Southland/Big South based CUSA. MVFC/Big Sky >>> Southland/Big South. And MWC >>> CUSA.

What will happen is movement, and almost certainly openings in both conferences.
These type of shifts happen about once a decade, and PAC/MWC are not immune.

Change is good and will bring opportunities. Its just a little slower to develop with these large institutions than some would like.

If the PAC gets raided and then guts the MWC, this would be the most likely scenario for NDSU to get a chance at FBS. This scenario would give many MVFC and Big Sky teams their only chance to get to the FBS. Biggest question is if any schools are going to really be desired by the Big 10 or Big 12. The payout for the PAC teams willing to move has to be much bigger for them to leave the PAC and their AQ for BB and FB. Why go into another massive conference with a lesser chance to get an AQ when you can compete with only 8-10 teams? I would take less teams if the money is the same

[JMB]

With all the movement and rumors, is there ever a day coming where the Universities sit down for a meeting and reorganize college football? You hear the rumors where big time football will end up as 60ish teams in two leagues (lets call them the Big 10 and SEC). Is there a point that a body gets together and says "lets just reorganize the whole thing and get it over with?"

[NDSU1980]

They also supposedly sent out feelers to half of fcs to figure out what options they had.
Its rumored Missouri St and others said no also.

UND and the rest of the North Central Conference, except for SDSU said the same thing when we brought up moving up to FCS. Sometimes people can't accept that you need to jump at the chance to move up when it comes along, even if it's not exactly what you want.

It's just mind boggling how the same people (Not trying to single you out, just a general observation) can always be against any idea of moving up.

[taper]

UND and the rest of the North Central Conference, except for SDSU said the same thing when we brought up moving up to FCS. Sometimes people can't accept that you need to jump at the chance to move up when it comes along, even if it's not exactly what you want.

It's just mind boggling how the same people (Not trying to single you out, just a general observation) can always be against any idea of moving up.

Ah yes, FCS Forever rears its head again. How long are you going to keep pushing that delusion? NOBODY has shown to be opposed to any idea of moving up, just those opposed to the bad ideas.

[taper]

With all the movement and rumors, is there ever a day coming where the Universities sit down for a meeting and reorganize college football? You hear the rumors where big time football will end up as 60ish teams in two leagues (lets call them the Big 10 and SEC). Is there a point that a body gets together and says "lets just reorganize the whole thing and get it over with?"

The NCAA transformational committee is currently in session and have talked about all kinds of stuff. The problem is any change has to pass a vote of the membership. P5 don't want to increase subsidizes to lower programs, G5 don't want to lose their perceived status, basketball schools don't want to change anything other than maybe expand the tourney or increase subsidizes. Lots of directions to pull and I don't have high hopes of anything meaningful. Unless the P5 decide it's worth the chaos to make a full break from the NCAA and become semi-pro leagues.

[56BISON73]

Ah yes, FCS Forever rears its head again. How long are you going to keep pushing that delusion? NOBODY has shown to be opposed to any idea of moving up, just those opposed to the bad ideas.

Bingo...............

[NDSU92]

If the PAC gets raided and then guts the MWC, this would be the most likely scenario for NDSU to get a chance at FBS. This scenario would give many MVFC and Big Sky teams their only chance to get to the FBS. Biggest question is if any schools are going to really be desired by the Big 10 or Big 12. The payout for the PAC teams willing to move has to be much bigger for them to leave the PAC and their AQ for BB and FB. Why go into another massive conference with a lesser chance to get an AQ when you can compete with only 8-10 teams? I would take less teams if the money is the same

Look at the delta in money that USC and UCLA are getting for going to the B10. Then consider that the PAC just lost their two biggest cash cows and are trying to renegotiate their media deal right now. And then on top of that the B12 just moved up their media rights negotiations so they could dunk on the PAC and convince schools to jump ship. Everyone in the PAC is testing the waters because of it.

People in charge of $100M athletic budgets are not making decisions based on automatic qualifiers.

[NDSU92]

With all the movement and rumors, is there ever a day coming where the Universities sit down for a meeting and reorganize college football? You hear the rumors where big time football will end up as 60ish teams in two leagues (lets call them the Big 10 and SEC). Is there a point that a body gets together and says "lets just reorganize the whole thing and get it over with?"

Define “reorganize”. If you mean they get every NCAA school president in a room and start picking/voting/drafting which schools go where - never in a million years. If you mean they select some committee to do that - again, never in a million years.

If you mean get a committee together to draw some arbitrary lines in the sand to effectively exclude schools from P5 and G5 (attendance or budgetary minimums, for instance) then maybe…