A new and better FBS thread

[Professorbum]

As much as the CUSA sucks ass this is the only option for the time being.

It was an option. It is no longer an option. We are no longer on their radar. We told them to f right off. All life boats have been launched.

[reformedUNDfan]

NDSU should be on the phone talking to the players about putting a best of the rest conference together centered around the MWC, but through Pac12 infrastructure. Tack on NDSU SDSU SMU and Memphis.

[The_Sicatoka]

I wonder how long it will take the B1G to kick out Rutgers or the SEC to kick out Vandy, etc.

They, frankly any conference member not delivering the value of a share, would be wise to take note of the predicament of WasSU and OrSU right now.

WasSU has serious debt/budget issues also.

[reformedUNDfan]

They, frankly any conference member not delivering the value of a share, would be wise to take note of the predicament of WasSU and OrSU right now.

WasSU has serious debt/budget issues also.

To your point yesterday, I don't think the academic consortium behind the Big10 would stand for kicking out anyone except maybe Nebraska, which isn't happening.

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

It was an option. It is no longer an option. We are no longer on their radar. We told them to f right off. All life boats have been launched.

We make more in the MVFC, and we need money
How much did you give NDSU athletics this year?

[The_Sicatoka]

As much as the CUSA sucks ass this is the only option for the time being.

Disagree. A conference that fears being raided in the future could invite a group to be the "Great Plains" division to have inventory.

Or, the NCAA could realize western CFB may soon be the MWC+2 and the BSC*. They could allow a rogue group to form a new G5 conference to fill the "entry level" FBS void in the west (without formal invite to FBS, ala Liberty). But this is the NCAA we're expecting to make sense, so don't hold your breath. And there's money involved and potentially more folks wanting a cut.


*Not that long ago it was PAC, MWC, WAC, BSC.

[reformedUNDfan]

Honestly with the huge buyouts in the AAC and MWC member contracts, NDSU might actually be the best available school. Get on the horn we can be in the PAC by Monday.

[The_Sicatoka]

To your point yesterday, I don't think the academic consortium behind the Big10 would stand for kicking out anyone except maybe Nebraska, which isn't happening.

If the PAC4 was shifty they'd quietly (no tampering, wink) let the part of the MWC they'd associate with know they'd be accepted. If it were six or more of the MWC, the by-laws only require majority vote to (a) remove exit fees, and (b) dissolve the conference. So say USAFA, SDSU, CSU, SDSU, UNR, Hawaii, got a quiet wink: They could remove the exit fee, dissolve, take their fraction of the remains, ... and Boise*, UNLV**, Wyo, UNM would be screwed.

But that PAC4+6, would they get better than a $10M share media deal? Even if they invited Gonzaga? That won't feed the CaliStan beasts.


*I don't see CaliStan ever tied to Boise State.
**Maybe included to appease UNR.

[The_Sicatoka]

Honestly with the huge buyouts in the AAC and MWC member contracts, NDSU might actually be the best available school. Get on the horn we can be in the PAC by Monday.

It'd be a PAC2. No way would CaliStan stay for that (or any FCS call-ups).

The PAC right now:
- four teams that are about as disparate in the conference as could be: CaliStan and the xSUs.
- no media deal to offer to potential new members
- $50M in debt to Comcast (because of billing mistake)
- $24.2M in assets (per 2021 IRS Form 990)
- whatever NCAAT credits they have

That really doesn't look like a nice landing spot.

[reformedUNDfan]

It'd be a PAC2. No way would CaliStan stay for that (or any FCS call-ups).

The PAC right now:
- four teams that are about as disparate in the conference as could be: CaliStan and the xSUs.
- no media deal to offer to potential new members
- $50M in debt to Comcast (because of billing mistake)
- $24.2M in assets (per 2021 IRS Form 990)
- whatever NCAAT credits they have

That really doesn't look like a nice landing spot.

I'm channeling my inner Chapo.

If the bay schools leave then you have a 4 team shell (NDSU SDSU OSU WSU) you can invite new members into.