Team Makers, Ticket Demand and Opportunity

[MAKBison]

or run like a business...new flash they are. dont think so...ask a dean

Something like this article should be posted every time someone says universities(or anything else) should be run by businessmen or run like businesses. Where did they get this wonderful new athletic director? CEO of a major business(Dominoes). Being in business doesn't make you any more or any less capable. You either have the skills to be a leader or not. If you've got the skills, you'll be successful whether you're running a business or a university. If you don't, you won't.

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[THEsocalledfan]

or run like a business...new flash they are. dont think so...ask a dean

This is a bit off topic, but Universities are a fascinating place having worked at the University of MN as a professor.

On one hand, you have colossal waste of money due to duplications in services and the complete inability to make difficult decisions when money is tight. Couple that with quite a few workers (non faculty types) who like the government's teat for not a lot of production, and you have the very argument why they need to run exactly like a business. Jesse the Body used to rip on the U of M for this, and rightfully so.

On the other hand, the independence that faculty are given due to it NOT being run like a typical business leads to innovation and discoveries that are hard to find in other industries. This does go a long way in justifying the messed up architecture of how they are run.

So, as with everything, there is a happy medium between the two that is likely optimal.

[HerdBot]

or run like a business...new flash they are. dont think so...ask a dean

College teams really should operate different than a for profit business. Maybe more like a non profit business.
If you think about it, a college team is basically property of the government but rely on private donations. The players don't get paid but they get a super valuable education and the state benefits in the future with a well trained work force who contribute to the state tax base. Then you have the research aspects. Most college teams actually run in the red or spend every penny they bring in (just like a non profit) but is the #1 marketing tool for the university. College sports is kind of bizarre if you think of it

[td577]

College teams really should operate different than a for profit business. Maybe more like a non profit business.
If you think about it, a college team is basically property of the government but rely on private donations. The players don't get paid but they get a super valuable education and the state benefits in the future with a well trained work force who contribute to the state tax base. Then you have the research aspects. Most college teams actually run in the red or spend every penny they bring in (just like a non profit) but is the #1 marketing tool for the university. College sports is kind of bizarre if you think of it

It's the grant or government funded mentally. If you don't spend it, you don't need that amount next year. The goal should be to have the athletic department be self-sufficient and let the academic side feed off the exposure. There should be programs in place that if you don't spend it, there is an institutional bonus the next year. Then let all the infrastructure needs fall on the university as a whole, not the athletic department. Now we are someplace where near half the athletic budget is taken care of by teammakers and the other half by revenue. The infrastructure costs become the school's contribution to the exposure by carrying it on their general fund books. At least start getting the athletic department to look like its carrying itself on paper when we all know it does in reality on another department's books.

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[HerdBot]

It's the grant or government funded mentally. If you don't spend it, you don't need that amount next year. The goal should be to have the athletic department be self-sufficient and let the academic side feed off the exposure. There should be programs in place that if you don't spend it, there is an institutional bonus the next year. Then let all the infrastructure needs fall on the university as a whole, not the athletic department. Now we are someplace where near half the athletic budget is taken care of by teammakers and the other half by revenue. The infrastructure costs become the school's contribution to the exposure by carrying it on their general fund books. At least start getting the athletic department to look like its carrying itself on paper when we all know it does in reality on another department's books.

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I think teammakers has a ways to go before they cover half the expense. Our budget was closer to 19 million and teammakers raised, what 3 million?

[JSUBison]

I think single game tickets should be sold according to priority points as well.

[td577]

I think teammakers has a ways to go before they cover half the expense. Our budget was closer to 19 million and teammakers raised, what 3 million?

I would have to look at the breakdown, but I was suggesting a lot of that was facility and infrastructure costs. Those are things that should be coming out the institutional budget, not the athletic department.

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[UTH]

Have no idea. What more space are you talking about?

Take out those pesky pillars in the corners, silly. Does somebody have to explain it to you AGAIN? Oh, yeah - that and adding SRO on the field along the west sideline... SRO down behind the endzones ought to work, as well.

[56BISON73]

Take out those pesky pillars in the corners, silly. Does somebody have to explain it to you AGAIN? Oh, yeah - that and adding SRO on the field along the west sideline... SRO down behind the endzones ought to work, as well.

You could put 2-4 rows of bleachers behind the team benches also. Plus dont forget about the cat walks above the field. Surely we can strap some fans in there.

[56BISON73]

Well, we put in a relocation request for our tailgating spots and were denied because there were no spots to move to. I have to believe if they were making it all reserved our request would have been filled.

I do see the day where the whole west lot becomes reserved. If they do, I'm sure they would open more non reserved.

If that happens then I can see NDSU doing what many schools do. There are other parking lots on the NDSU campus. They can use some of those for reserved game day parking/no alcohol.