Rpi now vs 2009

[NDSUstudent]

There is a huge difference in SOS...

2013-2014: non-conference SOS 19...overall SOS 120...3-3 vs top 100
2008-2009: non-conference SOS 168... overall SOS 290....0-3 vs top 100

[silkamilkamonico]

I like this team much better. 08-09 basically had 1 great offensive player on it in Woodside, 1 great Mid Major player in Winkleman who struggled mightily against High Major teams with an exception or 2, a very solid role player in Tveidt who could do alot of different things, and a guy in Mike Nelson who never got nearly enough credit for what he did for that team. Had some great memories of that team though.

[silkamilkamonico]

There is a huge difference in SOS...

2013-2014: non-conference SOS 19...overall SOS 120...3-3 vs top 100
2008-2009: non-conference SOS 168... overall SOS 290....0-3 vs top 100

Wow - hard to argue with that.

[ndsubison1]

Would love to hear people's arguments about how much better the 2009 team was then our current team.... Here are the facts our current rpi is 43 end of the season 2009 our rpi was 86..... 2014 team is my favorite to watch of the 2 hands down! And now I know why

ppl keep saying "summit league needs to win before a SL team can get a 12 seed" is baloney. resume/body of work means more. this team has legit shot at a 12 seed

[NDSUstudent]

ppl keep saying "summit league needs to win before a SL team can get a 12 seed" is baloney. resume/body of work means more. this team has legit shot at a 12 seed

Izzo says it every week on the blog and I just shake my head.

What happened this year is really all that matters.

[unbison]

If our rpi stays in the 40's idk how we are not a 12 seed
I think ppl got it wrong summit doesn't need a win to get a 12 seed they need a 12 seed or higher to get a win

[unbison]

Could just put the regular season champ in the championship game next year and play a 8 team tourney amongst the rest

[SlickVic]

If our rpi stays in the 40's idk how we are not a 12 seed
I think ppl got it wrong summit doesn't need a win to get a 12 seed they need a 12 seed or higher to get a win

As sheed wallace used to say ball dont lie unbisons right 12 seeds what we need to make some noise

[Bison03]

If the 08-09 team played the same schedule as this year's team, I would like to think that the records would be the same if not better. I think the 08-09 team finds a way to beat Southern Miss, and sure as hell doesn't lose to und. The 08-09 team had a record of 26-7, simliar to this year. 2 bad losses with S. Utah and Idaho. The other losses were Minnesota, a triple OT loss to SFA, USC, Oakland, and Kansas. It's an interresting debate. Hard to do though. It's like comparing 2011-13 football to teams in the 80's. Both were great.

[NDSUstudent]

I am not sure I agree with that. Marshall gives this team an edge against teams with good to great bigs that the 08-09 team just didn't have.

We don't beat ND without Marshall, ND has great guards(especially with Grant) but are weak inside. Marshall basically scored at will on them.

The best NDSU team that nobody talks about is the Woodside team that had Andre Smith. We didn't beat a high major team after Dre graduated...there is a reason for that.