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    Default New FBS proposal? Anything to this?

    This link comes from the SS, complements of SiouxVolly, AKA Star2City. Here's the link, I'll post his explanation of it in a bit. He's claiming NDSU will be forced to joy the Big Sky or revert to D2. I think he's blowing smoke.

    http://www.oneafar.org/Governance_Proposal.pdf

    Below is his explanation. God help us if he's right.

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    A new proposal for DI is out ( http://www.oneafar.o...ce_Proposal.pdf ). Under the proposal, the Sun Belt, CUSA, MAC, and AAC retain DI status. The Big Sky will be forced to pursue FBS status or drop down to the new DII. Schools that don't pursue DI will probably be force to join the WAC, which can't join the new division. Schools like NMSU, Idaho, Cal Poly, Davis, NDSU would have to join an FBS Big Sky or be forced down.

    FCS affililiation is the new D2.

    Eastern Kentucky is the latest team wanting out of FCS (to join the Sun Belt) because of talk of these rule changes.

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    Default Re: New FBS proposal? Anything to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by NDSU1980 View Post
    This link comes from the SS, complements of SiouxVolly, AKA Star2City. Here's the link, I'll post his explanation of it in a bit. He's claiming NDSU will be forced to joy the Big Sky or revert to D2. I think he's blowing smoke.

    http://www.oneafar.org/Governance_Proposal.pdf

    Below is his explanation. God help us if he's right.

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    A new proposal for DI is out ( http://www.oneafar.o...ce_Proposal.pdf ). Under the proposal, the Sun Belt, CUSA, MAC, and AAC retain DI status. The Big Sky will be forced to pursue FBS status or drop down to the new DII. Schools that don't pursue DI will probably be force to join the WAC, which can't join the new division. Schools like NMSU, Idaho, Cal Poly, Davis, NDSU would have to join an FBS Big Sky or be forced down.

    FCS affililiation is the new D2.

    Eastern Kentucky is the latest team wanting out of FCS (to join the Sun Belt) because of talk of these rule changes.
    I have no idea if this is real, but I did a quick document search for Big Sky and got zilch.

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    Default Re: New FBS proposal? Anything to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by NDSU1980 View Post
    This link comes from the SS, complements of SiouxVolly, AKA Star2City. Here's the link, I'll post his explanation of it in a bit. He's claiming NDSU will be forced to joy the Big Sky or revert to D2. I think he's blowing smoke.

    http://www.oneafar.org/Governance_Proposal.pdf

    Below is his explanation. God help us if he's right.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    A new proposal for DI is out ( http://www.oneafar.o...ce_Proposal.pdf ). Under the proposal, the Sun Belt, CUSA, MAC, and AAC retain DI status. The Big Sky will be forced to pursue FBS status or drop down to the new DII. Schools that don't pursue DI will probably be force to join the WAC, which can't join the new division. Schools like NMSU, Idaho, Cal Poly, Davis, NDSU would have to join an FBS Big Sky or be forced down.

    FCS affililiation is the new D2.

    Eastern Kentucky is the latest team wanting out of FCS (to join the Sun Belt) because of talk of these rule changes.
    I'm missing the part where it allows conferences as a whole to move up? It mentions 10 conferences at the end (SEC, B1G, Big 12, PAC 12, ACC, AAC, MWC, Sun Belt, CUSA, MAC).

    Also, what happens with the Independents (Notre Dame, Army, etc.)?

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    Do these self absorb professors really think anyone will listen to them?

    And if FCS schools are forced to move down to Div 2, what ramifications will happen in the basketball world??

    I'm exercising my civil rights and request legal representation. Would an attorney break this down please? CAS?

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    Default Re: New FBS proposal? Anything to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayville Bison View Post
    I'm missing the part where it allows conferences as a whole to move up? It mentions 10 conferences at the end (SEC, B1G, Big 12, PAC 12, ACC, AAC, MWC, Sun Belt, CUSA, MAC).

    Also, what happens with the Independents (Notre Dame, Army, etc.)?
    Where did you see that reference?! Page?!
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    I read it was from star2city and stopped reading. C'mon guys. What were some of his crazy predictions previously?
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    Default Re: New FBS proposal? Anything to this?

    Just a proposal, if this had more teeth I'm sure it would be in the news more than it has

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    Quick translation of what I've read so far.

    We(FBS) want to be our own division so we can make up our own rules and not have to worry about the non-FBS schools. We have no idea how this will work, but the magical administration fairy will surely work out all the bugs. Oh, and we still want to compete in the DI basketball(and other) tourney with all the other schools because we want the TV money, I mean it will be for the good of the division.

    Seriously, I'm not exaggerating very much. I can't believe this proposal can work. It feels more like another shot across the bow than a realistic proposal.

    An FBS remaining as part of Division I is less likely to maintain its integrity over time as a separate voting entity and would likely be unable to avoid the experience under the current governance structure in which institutions and conferences with very different resources and facing either different issues, or the same issues but in different degrees of acuteness, were able to move to Division IA or Division I FBS, thereby recreating the need for a separate FBS voice.
    In recommending a separate FBS division, the 1A FAR Board has neither evaluated all issues attendant on such a change, nor attempted to work out how to resolve all of them. We would find most welcome the opportunity to work with presidents and chancellors on the Division I Board or elsewhere, NCAA senior administrative staff, representative campus athletics administrators, and conference commissioners in making concrete the new governance structure. We have not engaged in close evaluation of the questions, for example, of which conferences and institutions should be identified as belonging to the new FBS division or whether there should be weighted voting in favor of the five conferences that remain from those that were automatic qualifiers in the BCS (or a sixth, should the AAC be so included).
    The 1A FAR Board supports a governance structure that leaves intact the Division I championship structure in which FBS institutions compete. We urge this for three reasons. First, the men’s basketball tournament funds more than 90 percent of NCAA operations, both at the national office and for all NCAA divisions, and we have no wish to create major impediments to their ability to function. Second, many NCAA operations and services funded by the men’s basketball tournament inure to the direct benefit of FBS institutions and conferences – enforcement; the eligibility center; interpretations; and student-athlete reinstatement (just to name a few). Third, because we believe that the Division I championship structure works well, we see no good reason to isolate FBS teams and conferences. (Moreover, although we have not examined competition numbers, we wonder whether some FBS-only championships would have a sufficient number of teams and student-athletes to warrant separate championships.5)

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    The article is a bunch of mumbo jumbo and the idiots on the Hitler Youth Board didn't even begin to recognize that NOTHING is as simple as their pea sized minds.

    I didn't see anything in the story about what happens to the Big East (It's a basketball conference ans still exists) or to other conferences that don't have football like the Missouri Valley.

    Are these discussion only to talking about football? If they are, then including the existing FBS conferences in the new structure does NOTHING to solve the problems they are currently having. Split off the top 4, 5 or 6 conferences or leave it the same. That's the only real options that exist.

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    Default Re: New FBS proposal? Anything to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    Where did you see that reference?! Page?!
    Figure 1 on the last page shows Board of Directors would be the President/Chancellor from each of 10 conferences. I just assumed the current FBS conferences made up those 10.

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