SI investigative report on OK ST football...

[bisonaudit]

Overall, do major college Athletic Departments MAKE huge profits? Outside of football and men's basketball most sports are money pits. What has to give?

If there is not profit there, then the pot of money must grow if some athletes are going to get paid. Maybe there are many boosters out there waiting for the OK to throw money at players.

It's an illusion that there isn't any profit. They're not allowed to make a profit. Even if they were there aren't any investors they owe a return to so there wouldn't be any point. The excess earnings inflate executive salaries and get spent on ridiculous capital improvements like Oregon's training facility. At least some of the capital improvements provide an indirect benefit to the players, but mostly they are self congratulatory monuments to someone's ego.

[Mayville Bison]

Interesting addition to the story. 9 of the 12 former players were either kicked out of school, dismissed from the team, transferred because of playing time, or just quit.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports...is-osu-expose/

[Bison"FANatic"]

The excess earnings inflate executive salaries and get spent on ridiculous capital improvements like Oregon's training facility.

Interesting argument on Oregons training facility but

"The entire project will be privately funded through the philanthropy of Phil and Penny Knight and will include no use of public, state or general university fund dollars. Construction is expected to get underway after the first of the year, with the anticipated completion targeted for the summer of 2013." http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.d...&DB_OEM_ID=500

but I do understand your continued hatred toward people who make large amounts of money. They should really have no choice in how they want to spend their own money and let a entity decide for them.

[NorthernBison]

It's an illusion that there isn't any profit. They're not allowed to make a profit. Even if they were there aren't any investors they owe a return to so there wouldn't be any point. The excess earnings inflate executive salaries and get spent on ridiculous capital improvements like Oregon's training facility. At least some of the capital improvements provide an indirect benefit to the players, but mostly their self congratulatory monuments to someone's ego.

So, would it be possible to "redistribute" a bunch of money within college sports to compensate football players without running most programs well into the red ink?

Or would college sports just implode?

[bisonaudit]

So, would it be possible to "redistribute" a bunch of money within college sports to compensate football players without running most programs well into the red ink?

Or would college sports just implode?

Jesus, it's not like it's a hand out. The players are the ones doing all the work.

[bisonaudit]

but I do understand your continued hatred toward people who make large amounts of money. They should really have no choice in how they want to spend their own money and let a entity decide for them.

Just because I happen to think that the tax code shouldn't provide incentives to people for donating money to athletic departments in exchange for the erection of public monuments to the donor doesn't mean that I hate people who make a lot of money.

Removing a tax break doesn't remove the right of a private citizen to do what they will with their own money. It fact it enhances that rich person's freedom because now more of his choices are on an equal playing field instead of some being favored economically for basically no reason.

[BadlandsBison]

Jesus, it's not like it's a hand out. The players are the ones doing all the work.

And getting a free education for it. But let me guess, that's not enough

[bisonaudit]

And getting a free education for it. But let me guess, that's not enough

Who give a shit about paying a guy $25,000 when 67 basketball games generate $800 million and 3 football games generate $500 million for the NCAA and its members. It's un-American and it needs to end.

These arguments are as old as they are ridiculous. It's the same stupid clap trap that was trotted out in defense of the reserve clause in professional baseball. It wasn't true then and it isn't true now. College football and basketball money are way bigger now than any of the professional leagues were when free agency was instituted.

It's akin to paying a coal miner in 'scrip' that he can only redeem at the company store. Then when he goes to shop for his groceries there's only one item on the shelf. A wealthy donor gets to do whatever he wants with his income (and get a tax break for doing it) but the kids who put the butts in the seats on Saturday have no choice about where or on what to 'spend' their 'compensation'.

There's no reason not to compensate these kids and there are any number of ways to start doing it. One would be to given them the right to make money off of their own image. Ed O'Bannon is suing for this now.

[BadlandsBison]

Comparing college athletes to coal miners?! Lol ok. Maybe college athletes should go on strike

I do agree that corruption follows the big money in college football and elsewhere. Pay for play fixes that? Idk

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[bisonaudit]

Comparing college athletes to coal miners?! Lol ok. Maybe college athletes should go on strike

I do agree that corruption follows the big money in college football and elsewhere. Pay for play fixes that? Idk

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I didn't compare them to coal miners. I compared your idea about how they get 'paid' to how some coal miners actually used to get paid. College football players enjoy much better working conditions but your conception of how they get 'paid' today is worse than how those actual coal miners were actually paid.