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    Quote Originally Posted by Bison"FANatic" View Post
    Man Audit step back and look at what I said. I could care less what the tax rate is and what percentage he pays now I am not trying to argue taxes here all I am saying is that the extra at the end of the day he would make is not a million it is $600,000 (which is still a huge chunk of change and I agree with road most people would jump at it). I can't say it any more plainly.
    I get it. But you accused me of apple and orangeing it, which I didn't do. It's not a $600,000 increase in take home over and above the $500,000 he's making to day. His take home today is only $300k and change. It's not a 2x increase. It's a 3x increase, whether you're looking at the gross or the net.

    People make a big hairy deal of taxes because no one likes taxes. But irrationally over weighting them is a very bad way to make decisions. Which is why I started the last round by agreeing with you. If this decision were entirely about money Coach Bohl probably would have left already. He's still here. In addition to money not being the most important consideration my further point is that within the conversation about the money, the marginal impact of federal income taxes on this decision should probably be zero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    I get it. But you accused me of apple and orangeing it, which I didn't do. It's not a $600,000 increase in take home over and above the $500,000 he's making to day. His take home today is only $300k and change. It's not a 2x increase. It's a 3x increase, whether you're looking at the gross or the net.

    People make a big hairy deal of taxes because no one likes taxes. But irrationally over weighting them is a very bad way to make decisions. Which is why I started the last round by agreeing with you. If this decision were entirely about money Coach Bohl probably would have left already. He's still here. In addition to money not being the most important consideration my further point is that within any conversation about the money, the marginal impact of federal income taxes on such I decision should probably be zero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadwarrior View Post
    If my salary was jumping 4 or 5 times my existing salary, my first worry would be when could I get behind the wheel of my 2014 Corvette. Taxes would be way down the list.
    Plus, hey, you'd be hitting the FICA limit so that 6.2% of gross that isn't being taken out on any of those new dollars.

    The more money you make, the more ways you have of avoiding taxes anyway.

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    I don't like accountants either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDB2 View Post
    I don't like accountants either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    I get it. But you accused me of apple and orangeing it, which I didn't do. It's not a $600,000 increase in take home over and above the $500,000 he's making to day. His take home today is only $300k and change. It's not a 2x increase. It's a 3x increase, whether you're looking at the gross or the net.

    People make a big hairy deal of taxes because no one likes taxes. But irrationally over weighting them is a very bad way to make decisions. Which is why I started the last round by agreeing with you. If this decision were entirely about money Coach Bohl probably would have left already. He's still here. In addition to money not being the most important consideration my further point is that within any conversation about the money, the marginal impact of federal income taxes on such a decision should probably be zero.
    OK this is my last post I will point out the apple and orange difference that I was talking about and then you can do what you want as I am not making a tax rate argument.

    Apple: I don't care one cent what he is making today and his take home as I was not comparing totals compensation. I was comparing the amount of actual extra money he would have in his pocket by taking the job and saying that is the number that matters in the long run when making the decision.

    Orange: You are trying to compare what tax bracket he is in now and what it would cost him EXTRA in taxes compared to what he pays in taxes now and are comparing the jump in his pay by factors. I could care less if it is 2, 3 or 30 times his compensation. The number is going to be different for each person that their TAKEHOME salary would have to increase before they would take the job. I don't know what his number is and wasn't trying to guess it, I am just saying that a million dollar pay increase is not a million dollars that he would see in his check book. Your trying to make it look like I said he would turn it down because it would put him in a higher tax bracket and that just isn't even close to what I said.

    I said: He will hit the 40% tax bracket with anything above what he makes now, so you have to sit down and figure out the dollars and cents

    When I said that I was implying that dollar and cents meant comparing the actual amount he is going to see and if it is worth it to him.



    I have known people that farmed that have had large tracks of land offered to them and passed it up. When they added in the extra expenses, equipment, risk, and man power and the headaches that go with that and took out their taxes the take home pay wasn't worth it for the amount of extra time and energy that they were going to have to put in to make that amount of money. They were happy with the size of their operation and the salary they were making and the actual increase in take home pay wasn't worth it to them. Basically you have to look at the bottom line when making the decisions and not the Gross income nothing more nothing less. Good thing in Bohls case is the other expenses shouldn't change to much.

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    Default Re: Is this the end of the road for Coach Bohl at NDSU?

    Quote Originally Posted by ndsubison1 View Post
    iowa maybe
    that 18 million dollar buyout is not getting triggered this offseason, even if the hawkeyes go 0-12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BisonNeil View Post
    In summary, I believe the only HC job Bohl would leave NDSU for would be the Big Red in Nebraska.

    I have lots of friends in NE who are Cornhusker fans and they all say the same thing, knowledgeable NE football fans know that Bohl was the scapegoat for Solich's crumbling regime. They all still follow Bohl, and most of them believe he will be the next HC after Pelini is fired, which could come as early as this year.

    Did you see how horrible the NE defense was against Wyoming? They gave up 34 points at home to WY, and did this after giving up 115 points during the final two games last year and lost most of their defense. You heard it hear first, the Bunnies will beat the Huskers on September 21.

    No they wont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BisoninNWMN View Post
    No they wont.
    The Bunnies will be too exhausted from hanging 70 on un_. That game should be hilarious. A sixth ranked team against one of the worst defenses in FCS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDB2 View Post
    You fool!

    You've fallen for one of the classic blunders.

    The first is never get involved in a land war in Asia* followed closely by never get in an argument with an accountant when numbers are on the line!
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