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    I doubt many of you will disagree with me on this, but I think we were not only better prepared for that game than our opponent, but are just flat out better than them. I don't think the score was really indicative of HOW MUCH better. There were 3 glaring errors that we made that could have change the trajectory of the game and the score dramatically. I get how the butterfly effect works, and I'm not usually a "What if" guy, but hear me out on this one:

    -Ryan Smith TD, 7-0
    -Heagle doesn't get burned and they have to settle for a field goal (first error), 7-3
    -We don't drop that pass in the endzone near the end of the first half (second error), 14-3
    -Marcus doesn't bite on the double move and they settle for 3 again (third error), 14-6
    -Sams scores on his great run play, 14-13
    -Vraa TD, 21-13
    -Keller hits, 24-13
    -Jensen TD, 31-13

    So, 3 big errors were basically a 21 point swing. I thought we looked and ARE much better than them.

    I'm pretty excited to see what else this team can do...
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    The perfect TD pass that was dropped was massive and nobody is talking about it. We would have been up 14-7. Then missed the fg and momentum swung. We were dominating. Huge turning point. Glad that isn't a play we are saying "what if" about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heffray View Post
    I doubt many of you will disagree with me on this, but I think we were not only better prepared for that game than our opponent, but are just flat out better than them. I don't think the score was really indicative of HOW MUCH better. There were 3 glaring errors that we made that could have change the trajectory of the game and the score dramatically. I get how the butterfly effect works, and I'm not usually a "What if" guy, but hear me out on this one:

    -Ryan Smith TD, 7-0
    -Heagle doesn't get burned and they have to settle for a field goal (first error), 7-3
    -We don't drop that pass in the endzone near the end of the first half (second error), 14-3
    -Marcus doesn't bite on the double move and they settle for 3 again (third error), 14-6
    -Sams scores on his great run play, 14-13
    -Vraa TD, 21-13
    -Keller hits, 24-13
    -Jensen TD, 31-13

    So, 3 big errors were basically a 21 point swing. I thought we looked and ARE much better than them.

    I'm pretty excited to see what else this team can do...
    I agree we were the better team....but...they made some mistakes as well. I think the biggest mistake was their play calling. They have two WR's with talent we won't see again this year. Why didn't they throw deep more often? BCS teams thrive on those big plays and I was shocked that they only threw deep a couple of times....I think we would've been in trouble had they kept throwing the ball instead of trying to turn Waters into Collin Klein...This may not be Snyder's style either but then he is wasting some serious talent with those receivers which goes back to play calling. You gotta go with what's working no matter what your game is and take advantage of your talent...

    With that said, I wouldn't mind if we threw it deep a few times a game as well...I don't see what it would hurt. D-Gray all the way!!!

    We still win of course but it's a higher scoring game.

    I too am excited about this team!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Almeida View Post
    I agree we were the better team....but...they made some mistakes as well. I think the biggest mistake was their play calling. They have two WR's with talent we won't see again this year. Why didn't they throw deep more often? BCS teams thrive on those big plays and I was shocked that they only threw it a couple of times....I think we would've been in trouble had they kept throwing the ball instead of trying to turn Waters into Collin Klein...

    With that said, I wouldn't mind if we threw it deep a few times a game as well...I don't see what it would hurt. D-Gray all the way!!!

    I too am excited about this team!
    This. Once it started to get clear that they were going to have trouble with the running game and they scored their two long touchdowns...I was afraid they were going to just keep throwing it deep until we stopped it. They obviously had different ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 344Johnson View Post
    This. Once it started to get clear that they were going to have trouble with the running game and they scored their two long touchdowns...I was afraid they were going to just keep throwing it deep until we stopped it. They obviously had different ideas.
    Oh I was shaking in my flip-flops!! I'm glad they DID have different ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Almeida View Post
    I agree we were the better team....but...they made some mistakes as well. I think the biggest mistake was their play calling. They have two WR's with talent we won't see again this year. Why didn't they throw deep more often? BCS teams thrive on those big plays and I was shocked that they only threw deep a couple of times....I think we would've been in trouble had they kept throwing the ball instead of trying to turn Waters into Collin Klein...This may not be Snyder's style either but then he is wasting some serious talent with those receivers which goes back to play calling. You gotta go with what's working no matter what your game is and take advantage of your talent...

    With that said, I wouldn't mind if we threw it deep a few times a game as well...I don't see what it would hurt. D-Gray all the way!!!

    We still win of course but it's a higher scoring game.

    I too am excited about this team!
    I guess I was under the assumption that a great coach like Snyder would have continued to hammer this, HAD it been available to him. I wasn't able to see the whole field on the TV, but I guess I just assumed we made the adjustments and the long pass wasn't there.

    Anyone who was at the game can help us here...
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    What stood out for me looking back at the game is the evolution and maturation the Bison have shown as a team and Brock Jensen has shown individually since their last road loss on the snowy ugly turf in Cheney Washington. Consequently, the game winning play at Kansas St was basically a carbon copy of the game losing play (if you don't count the blown replay call) against Eastern Washington. It's mind boggling to comprehend how much this team, led by Jensen, has accomplished since then.

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    I'm pretty sure if we are up 24-14 in the 4th quarter, we kill more clock and dont need that last td. I was worried when we didn't score after the MWill pick and thought it may come back to bite us. Thank God it didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Burgundy View Post
    The perfect TD pass that was dropped was massive and nobody is talking about it. We would have been up 14-7. Then missed the fg and momentum swung. We were dominating. Huge turning point. Glad that isn't a play we are saying "what if" about.
    I can't forget that missed TD. We may have taken control at that point.

    Something else I would like to talk about is the trip back to Fargo. We stayed in KC and went to an Irish festival. With our NDSU shirts, we were stars! Everyone talked to us and congratulated us. Thay was awesome. Husker fans, Mizzou fans, jayhawks, and a couple kstate guys too. Great weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadlandsBison View Post
    I can't forget that missed TD. We may have taken control at that point.

    Something else I would like to talk about is the trip back to Fargo. We stayed in KC and went to an Irish festival. With our NDSU shirts, we were stars! Everyone talked to us and congratulated us. Thay was awesome. Husker fans, Mizzou fans, jayhawks, and a couple kstate guys too. Great weekend

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    That dropped TD pass reminded me of the Wyoming loss....we were dominating, couple of drops and suddenly we lose. I was gripping after that non catch. Just terrible. I still cannot believe how good Brock was....and how impressive our line play was. We were in better condition that them late. Also, Vigen said that Sam made some great improvements in the off season. He was terrific. Great to see our offense play like that. Our defense was just flat out awesome. They couldn't run on us. We ran it down their throats. That is impressive. That is how you win football games. Lets just catch the ball while in the endzones please!!!!
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