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    LT Turner Plank
    LG Gimme Schueler
    C Hinz Coville
    RG Johnson Coville
    RT Haeg Pomerenke Lesar

    Hopefully Haeg and Coville will check in around 300/290 repectively in September. I see the center position as Open with Hinz, Coville and Schueler as candidates. I'd be grooming Plankers behind Turner for 2014, unless he's the best candidate for the RT position right now. A Freshman or two could push also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herd View Post
    LT Turner Plank
    LG Gimme Schueler
    C Hinz Coville
    RG Johnson Coville
    RT Haeg Pomerenke Lesar

    Hopefully Haeg and Coville will check in around 300/290 repectively in September. I see the center position as Open with Hinz, Coville and Schueler as candidates. I'd be grooming Plankers behind Turner for 2014, unless he's the best candidate for the RT position right now. A Freshman or two could push also.
    i think the expectation/hype is for plankers to challenge at RT, just as johnson will challenge at guard. Line will be loaded next year regardless. The real question is can we have another rimmington winner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herd View Post
    LT Turner Plank
    LG Gimme Schueler
    C Hinz Coville
    RG Johnson Coville
    RT Haeg Pomerenke Lesar

    Hopefully Haeg and Coville will check in around 300/290 repectively in September. I see the center position as Open with Hinz, Coville and Schueler as candidates. I'd be grooming Plankers behind Turner for 2014, unless he's the best candidate for the RT position right now. A Freshman or two could push also.
    Interesting depth chart. I don't see Colville getting beat out for RG unless he becomes the center. He made the all-conference freshman squad, didn't he? He had a terrific championship game, he and Turner really moved some people in the second half. Johnson is good, I just don't see him moving him out.

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    while we're at it, would someone mind explaining what you look for in a guard as opposed to a tackle or center?

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    How good is that Pomerenke kid?
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    Zach Johnson will start the next 3 years. He's the rave if everyone. If colville comes back from the knee surgery I think he's the starting center.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reformedUNDfan View Post
    while we're at it, would someone mind explaining what you look for in a guard as opposed to a tackle or center?
    It is desirable for tackles to be taller than guards for pass protection purposes. Guards that have the agility to pull (like in NDSU's bread and butter "power" play) are also desirable. Left tackle should be more athletic than any other position on the line because he protects the QBs blind side. Centers (and this may sound simplistic) need to be able to play center. They need to be able to play OL while snapping the ball, making protection calls and communicating with his linemates as well as the QB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reformedUNDfan View Post
    while we're at it, would someone mind explaining what you look for in a guard as opposed to a tackle or center?
    When going up against a std 4-3 defense, I would look for . . .

    C 285-305 Better quickness than G position to be able to get down field and block on LBs. quickness & size to support doubles on DT.
    G 295-310 Need more size to deal with DTs and interior rushing; typically need some quickness for pulling, but less foot quickness than Ts.
    T 300-315 Quickness needed to protect edges and move with faster DEs. Size for getting touch yards on the edge.

    Against 3-4 Defenses, more size in the C position is desired, and more quickness with the Gs.

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    Maybe a tad off topic, but still relevant perhaps.

    Did Sam Houston lose any of their d-lineman from 2011 to 2012? In 2011, we had a really good offensive line and could hardly move the ball on them, while last year, with two freshman, replacing Richards and Cornick(studs obviously), were able to move the ball very well.

    Anyone with a good football mind (Burgundy, Rams, CAS perhaps?) mind elaborating on what was the difference?
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    No one has answered why it's desirable for tackles to be taller yet.

    You need to have reach to prevent the outside rushers from getting into the body.
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