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So you're saying that he ran 40 yards slower because he was running a 100 yard race? 100 yards is a pretty short distance as well.

Yes. When you run the 40 yard dash, you want to be at your peak speed at 40 yards, with the 100m, you are going to be wanting to accelerate THROUGH the 40 yard point. That doesn't take into account long strides. His ideal race might not be the 40...

not true he ran the 60 in what at the time would have been world record time as well

Ok, so compare his 60m split in the 100m to his actual 60m time, I guarantee it's different.

All I'm trying to point out here is every race has a different strategy to it. Do I know specifics? No, I don't and I am not trying to pretend I do. However, I do know that a 40m split in a 100m race is different than a 40yd dash(plus, the difference in distance between yards and meters, which isn't being taken into account here either). I see your point, but to say because he ran a 4.37 SPLIT while setting the 100m world record makes it almost impossible to have someone run a faster 40 is a bad comparison. Apples to Oranges.

[Bison"FANatic"]

For running a 4.19 40 at pro day there sure were a lot of MVFC and other DB's that were running stride for stride with him in that highlight tape.

[BisonNation11]

For running a 4.19 40 at pro day there sure were a lot of MVFC and other DB's that were running stride for stride with him in that highlight tape.

There's pads speed and no pads speed. Then there's just broken equipment... Good for him if it's a true time.

[Bisonguy]

Yes. When you run the 40 yard dash, you want to be at your peak speed at 40 yards, with the 100m, you are going to be wanting to accelerate THROUGH the 40 yard point. That doesn't take into account long strides. His ideal race might not be the 40...



Ok, so compare his 60m split in the 100m to his actual 60m time, I guarantee it's different.

All I'm trying to point out here is every race has a different strategy to it. Do I know specifics? No, I don't and I am not trying to pretend I do. However, I do know that a 40m split in a 100m race is different than a 40yd dash(plus, the difference in distance between yards and meters, which isn't being taken into account here either). I see your point, but to say because he ran a 4.37 SPLIT while setting the 100m world record makes it almost impossible to have someone run a faster 40 is a bad comparison. Apples to Oranges.

There's also reaction time in track. Time starts at the gun in track, whereas in FB 40's it's usually timed starting on movement.

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There's also reaction time in track. Time starts at the gun in track, whereas in FB 40's it's usually timed starting on movement.

Very valid point as well. Even more apples to oranges.

[Bison06]

Yes. When you run the 40 yard dash, you want to be at your peak speed at 40 yards, with the 100m, you are going to be wanting to accelerate THROUGH the 40 yard point. That doesn't take into account long strides. His ideal race might not be the 40...



Ok, so compare his 60m split in the 100m to his actual 60m time, I guarantee it's different.

All I'm trying to point out here is every race has a different strategy to it. Do I know specifics? No, I don't and I am not trying to pretend I do. However, I do know that a 40m split in a 100m race is different than a 40yd dash(plus, the difference in distance between yards and meters, which isn't being taken into account here either). I see your point, but to say because he ran a 4.37 SPLIT while setting the 100m world record makes it almost impossible to have someone run a faster 40 is a bad comparison. Apples to Oranges.

You don't try and peak your speed later in the race in a 100m than you would in a 40 yd. The goal is to get to top speed as fast as possible in either race. But most sprinters don't reach top speed until 50-60 meters into a 100m race. Someone like Usain Bolt would never reach top speed during a 40 yd race.

It isn't a matter of deciding to get to top speed faster in a 40 vs a 100m, it's simply a limitation of some people's body.

So people who run a 40 very quickly are better at getting to top speed very quickly.

I looked up the times because I was curious and the fastest 60m splits of all time are actually slightly faster than the fastest 60m dashes of all time. If your theory held water, it would be the exact opposite because they would be trying to peak later in the race and wouldn't have run as fast a split.

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You don't try and peak your speed later in the race in a 100m than you would in a 40 yd. The goal is to get to top speed as fast as possible in either race. But most sprinters don't reach top speed until 50-60 meters into a 100m race. Someone like Usain Bolt would never reach top speed during a 40 yd race.

It isn't a matter of deciding to get to top speed faster in a 40 vs a 100m, it's simply a limitation of some people's body.

So people who run a 40 very quickly are better at getting to top speed very quickly.

Better way of explaining it than me, that's essentially what I was going for even tho I was wrong.

[Bison06]

Better way of explaining it than me, that's essentially what I was going for even tho I was wrong.

You're right about the 40 yds vs 40m. I would say that is the reason why Ben Johnson's split was so high. Plus he started out of blocks so if it was a 40 yd dash, I would guess he would have been in the 4.2 or 4.1.

[westnodak93bison]

For running a 4.19 40 at pro day there sure were a lot of MVFC and other DB's that were running stride for stride with him in that highlight tape.

4.19 lol and he couldnt dominate the MVFC?

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[BisonNation11]

4.19 lol and he couldnt dominate the MVFC?

Well he has had since the middle of November to work on his 40...