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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonsfan View Post
    can someone make a list of anti-ndsu people in that legislature?

    skarpol, carlson, kesch, grand forks guys,
    It would be easier to make the opposite list. Much shorter too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonsfan View Post
    can someone make a list of anti-ndsu people in that legislature?

    skarpol, carlson, kesch, grand forks guys,
    Streyle
    Dosh
    skarpol,
    carlson,
    kesch
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    Mark Dosch's daughter attends NDSU. He simply hates all things "higher ed"

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    Here is the language currently in SB 2003 - appropriation for higher education

    It looks like the threat to starting the BSA project and the STEM building were taken care of.

    SECTION 22. MASTER PLAN AND SPACE UTILIZATION STUDY - CAMPUS BUILDING
    PROJECTS - PROJECT MANAGEMENT. The master plan and space utilization study line item
    contained in subdivision 1 of section 1 of this Act includes funding that must be used by the
    state board of higher education to conduct a systemwide master plan and space utilization
    study. The board may use up to $150,000 of the funds to contract with an outside entity for a
    final design review of the university of North Dakota school of medicine and health sciences
    facility project and the North Dakota state university science, technology, engineering, and
    mathematics classroom building project. Beginning with the effective date of this Act, the state
    board of higher education may not authorize a capital project, excluding athletic facility projects
    to be paid from private or local funds
    , to begin at an institution until a master plan and space
    utilization study has been conducted of the campus and the board determines the building
    project conforms with the master plan and space utilization study
    . However, construction may
    begin on the university of North Dakota school of medicine and health sciences facility project
    and the North Dakota State University science, technology, engineering, and mathematics
    classroom building project
    prior to the completion of a master plan
    and space utilization study of
    the respective campus.

    533 In a row

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    BISMARCK - After a third attempt, Senate lawmakers successfully passed a resolution proposing a constitutional change to remove the State Board of Higher Education and replace it with a full-time three-member committee.


    http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/397324/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISXBISON View Post
    BISMARCK - After a third attempt, Senate lawmakers successfully passed a resolution proposing a constitutional change to remove the State Board of Higher Education and replace it with a full-time three-member committee.


    http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/397324/
    And if it passes in the general election, say hello to 1930's governance.
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    Getchyer Popcorn, Steve Scheel just weighed in with a letter to the editor of the GF Herald saying the Chancellor must go. Kind of surprised it didn't appear in the Forum yet. http://www.grandforksherald.com/even...group/Opinion/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BisBison View Post
    Getchyer Popcorn, Steve Scheel just weighed in with a letter to the editor of the GF Herald saying the Chancellor must go. Kind of surprised it didn't appear in the Forum yet. http://www.grandforksherald.com/even...group/Opinion/
    It is a model built on distrust. The SBOHE does not get to work exclusively with its member institutions. If an institution dislikes something the SBOHE does, they call their congressperson. If legislators don't like what the SBOHE is doing, they can tweak funding. If the SBOHE doesn't like what Ndsu is doing, they can try to fire the president. (I am not saying what chapman was doing was right, but given the context and parameters in which someone else else was trying to manage private donations, it may not have been so wrong either, in one instance.)

    The bottom like is that while Scheels might think there is this loving relationship among all of his stores, the reality is when corporate gives its final answer, it really is the final answer. While Scheels might feel their organization has developed this trusting relationship, it doesn't have to go both ways. One side doesn't have to trust the other to get stuff done.

    While I agree trust is a major missing component between the SBOHE and the schools; it is ignorant to compare a corporation with higher education. While ideally it would great to see it work like that, it won't...ever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by td577 View Post
    The bottom like is that while Scheels might think there is this loving relationship among all of his stores, the reality is when corporate gives its final answer, it really is the final answer. While Scheels might feel their organization has developed this trusting relationship, it doesn't have to go both ways. One side doesn't have to trust the other to get stuff done.
    Key difference between Scheels and the NDUS:

    1. Scheels locations aren't competing against each other for resources.
    2. Scheels spends money to serve customers. If Scheels ran like the NDUS, then they'd build a store in Tioga and spend $10000 per possible customer. They'd also spend huge amounts of money on infrastructure on store locations whose sales are largely online.

    But some other interesting in the last couple days:

    1. The NDUS internal auditor quits, citing weather and dead-end nature of job. http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/398053/ Ouch.
    2. Skarphol and Carlson are mixing it up. http://bismarcktribune.com/news/colu...a4bcf887a.html If I wrote headlines, this one would have been "Carlson claims Three Stooges not in Bible."

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony View Post
    2. Skarphol and Carlson are mixing it up. http://bismarcktribune.com/news/colu...a4bcf887a.html If I wrote headlines, this one would have been "Carlson claims Three Stooges not in Bible."
    Or "Carlson to hire The father, son and holy ghost to save Higher ED"

    Or "God not interested in job to save ND Higher Ed but Carlson says he can" follow up article " But Skarphol says humans needed"

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