Favorite Big Hit Of All-Time

[344Johnson]

Point being, I don't think there are many things a defender can do anymore that won't be called a penalty and I think the game is being ruined to a certain extent, especially in the NFL.

The NFL is ridiculous with all the penalties. In a Steeler game earlier this season, Ryan Clark did a textbook hit where he lit a dude up.....with his head up and to the side, and shoulder pads in the guys chest. It was called a helmet-to-helmet hit because the offensive player layed on the ground.

[IndyBison]

I realize you are a referee and understand the way the rule actually reads much better than I do, but what about watching football in the last few years leads you to believe that ANY helmet to helmet contact won't be called a personal foul. I have seen the exact scenario that I described play out many times in both college and NFL the last 3 or 4 years. A defensive player comes in low enough that he is being "safe" and the defender shifts his body to initiate some sort of helmet on helmet contact inadvertantly. Harrison Smith in a Vikes game earlier this year is a good example.

Point being, I don't think there are many things a defender can do anymore that won't be called a penalty and I think the game is being ruined to a certain extent, especially in the NFL.

The rule is pretty simple. It's the interpretations and philosophies around the rule. Here is the actual text from related rules (9-1):

SECTION 1. All fouls in this section (unless noted) and any other acts of unnecessary roughness are personal fouls.
ARTICLE 3. No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.
ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, elbow or shoulder. When in question, it is a foul.
ARTICLE 12. a. No player shall tackle or run into a receiver when a forward pass to him obviously is not catchable. This is a personal foul and not pass interference. b. No player shall run into or throw himself against an opponent obviously out of the play either before or after the ball is dead.

The leading sentence of the section very vaguely unnecessary roughness. This is the only place that term is used. The next two articles have to do with illegal helmet contact. The last one often happens when a player picks an opponent off next to a pile or well behind a play.

Many of these plays are obviously fouls but there are plays that officials will debate should or should not be a foul. The obvious ones typically involve a defender not making any attempt to wrap up the opponent. If they launch it's even easier. I'm amazed at how many of those I still see, especially at the NFL and D1 level (we don't see a lot at the D3 or HS level). Here's an example from the BCS Championship game. When I first saw this play I didn't think anything of it but if you watch Ta'o closely you'll see it was helmet to helmet contact. But he was lighting up a guy. He was attempting to make a tackle and their helmets collided.

http://youtu.be/qYysOJwDYEE

The NFL is ridiculous with all the penalties. In a Steeler game earlier this season, Ryan Clark did a textbook hit where he lit a dude up.....with his head up and to the side, and shoulder pads in the guys chest. It was called a helmet-to-helmet hit because the offensive player layed on the ground.

. Your quote "where he lit a guy up" is the likely problem. There has been an increase in hits where the defender isn't trying to tackle or block an opponent with legal techniques. They are just trying to hit them and these hits often end up being high. When in doubt it's a foul. I posted a video earlier in this thread where you see a player get "lit up" but the defender is making an attempt to tackle the guy.

[344Johnson]

. Your quote "where he lit a guy up" is the likely problem. There has been an increase in hits where the defender isn't trying to tackle or block an opponent with legal techniques. They are just trying to hit them and these hits often end up being high. When in doubt it's a foul. I posted a video earlier in this thread where you see a player get "lit up" but the defender is making an attempt to tackle the guy.

Well, if I recall, he hit him legit form tackle style and wrapped him up and everything. So sad, I understand the whole "in question" thing better now. Thank you.

[JMB]

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My new favorite big hit of all time...

[GFBison]

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My new favorite big hit of all time...

When I saw that hit it reminded me of Phil Hansen's hit on UND's Kovash. Phil's was a little higher and ended Kovash's desire to play again.

[JMB]

When I saw that hit it reminded me of Phil Hansen's hit on UND's Kovash. Phil's was a little higher and ended Kovash's desire to play again.

I liked the hit because Bell's little trot down the field after "our" interception was called back irritated me.

[westnodak93bison]

I liked the hit because Bell's little trot down the field after "our" interception was called back irritated me.

Did you enjoy Bell's little boy band antics after a td pass or big play. He reminds me of Justin Bieber.

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[1998braves64]

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My new favorite big hit of all time...

Was this the one where he got the wind knocked out of him? To me that was the best legal hit that a d player could ever put on a QB anymore... just drove through him and staked him to the ground... (Bell didn't do himself any favors by trying to do his version of a crockett jump pass)

[BisonNation11]

Was this the one where he got the wind knocked out of him? To me that was the best legal hit that a d player could ever put on a QB anymore... just drove through him and staked him to the ground... (Bell didn't do himself any favors by trying to do his version of a crockett jump pass)

Yes, this was the play. I watched it on replay a few times today, for the first time. My favorite highlight from the game now, was Bell's last play of the game. He comes back from being out quite a few plays to throw a pick to MWill. As tough as I know SHSU can be if they are clicking, is it bad of me to say I want to see them in Frisco again next year??? Another a$$ whoopin' would be great! And I want to personally tell Bell to hit a buffet a few times a week.

[IzzyFlexion]

Yes, this was the play. I watched it on replay a few times today, for the first time. My favorite highlight from the game now, was Bell's last play of the game. He comes back from being out quite a few plays to throw a pick to MWill. As tough as I know SHSU can be if they are clicking, is it bad of me to say I want to see them in Frisco again next year??? Another a$$ whoopin' would be great! And I want to personally tell Bell to hit a buffet a few times a week.

Coincidently, did you know that Buffet fans make Bison fans look like shit?