Summit Expansion?

[DePereBisonFan]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...horizon-league

"Kampe said he has talked to coaches in the Horizon League and all have been supportive of adding his program.
Has Kampe spoken to Detroit coach Ray McCallum about it?
"No, that is not a coach I've talked to about this," he said."

Interesting article. What's more interesting is that Greg Kampe seems to be disrespecting Detroit a bit - he hasn't talked with them, only with other schools in the Horizon, and yet is whining to the media about Detroit's role in leaving them out and offering reasons to the media why Oakland would fit in the Horizon.

Doesn't seem like the best way to start a relationship.

On another note, Southern Utah is not in the Summit anymore, so that point doesn't count. Would Robert Morris or IUPUI add more to the Horizon than Oakland?

[Tatanka]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...horizon-league

"Kampe said he has talked to coaches in the Horizon League and all have been supportive of adding his program.
Has Kampe spoken to Detroit coach Ray McCallum about it?
"No, that is not a coach I've talked to about this," he said."

Interesting article. What's more interesting is that Greg Kampe seems to be disrespecting Detroit a bit - he hasn't talked with them, only with other schools in the Horizon, and yet is whining to the media about Detroit's role in leaving them out and offering reasons to the media why Oakland would fit in the Horizon.

Doesn't seem like the best way to start a relationship.

On another note, Southern Utah is not in the Summit anymore, so that point doesn't count. Would Robert Morris or IUPUI add more to the Horizon than Oakland?

Nice! Kampe knows who his competition is, and he's not about to give an ounce to them in any way shape or form. Very interesting...

[JSUBison]

It's hard to keep all the shuffling straight, but if Air Force moves their FB to the Big East, does the MWC allow them to keep their Olympics in the MWC, or would they be looking for a new home? Reason being that I think adding Denver and Air Force to the Summit wouldn't be a bad idea. It's a bit of a pipe dream, but conferences are changing daily, and stranger things have happened. Colorado is no further now then it was in the DII NCC days.

[zooropa]

It's hard to keep all the shuffling straight, but if Air Force moves their FB to the Big East, does the MWC allow them to keep their Olympics in the MWC, or would they be looking for a new home? Reason being that I think adding Denver and Air Force to the Summit wouldn't be a bad idea. It's a bit of a pipe dream, but conferences are changing daily, and stranger things have happened. Colorado is no further now then it was in the DII NCC days.

In fact, the AFA's AD wants the other sports in a more congenial conference, competition-wise.

But consider: If Oakland *is* invited to the Horizon, what happens next?

The Summit is sitting at 8 teams, which seems dangerous, but is it really?

Which of the 8 remaining schools would be most likely to be poached by another conference? None of them are attractive. And it's not like any of these schools would leave the Summit on spec, hoping that they'll land a spot in another, better, conference.

And you can talk about how NDSU should be looking elsewhere, well, when isn't it looking elsewhere? And how could insistently petitioning for membership in the MVC increase NDSU's odds of getting into the MVC? It brings absolutely nothing to the table. NDSU, like SDSU, is in the Summit for better or worse.

So, basically, you've got a stable 8--and the option to continue to look out for decent fits within the core of the conference.

[NDSUstudent]

Air Force and Denver would be a slam dunk, that said it is definitely a bit of a pipe dream to say the least. They would work beautifully as travel partners and add a lot to the conference.

[zooropa]

Air Force and Denver would be a slam dunk, that said it is definitely a bit of a pipe dream to say the least. They would work beautifully as travel partners and add a lot to the conference.

They would not add 'a lot' to the conference.

Their Summit sports aren't that great and neither school would add to the stability of the conference.

True, they would add a measure of prestige, but it would come along with a significant increase in travel costs and no appreciable gain in membership stability.

[DePereBisonFan]

But consider: If Oakland *is* invited to the Horizon, what happens next?

The Summit is sitting at 8 teams, which seems dangerous, but is it really?

Well, if IUPUI is looking to get out then we're down to 7.

[NDSUstudent]

They would not add 'a lot' to the conference.

Their Summit sports aren't that great and neither school would add to the stability of the conference.

True, they would add a measure of prestige, but it would come along with a significant increase in travel costs and no appreciable gain in membership stability.

Honestly it is a huge stretch to say that adding both would make for significant increase in travel. You fly into Denver, play both schools for basketball or volleyball or soccer and then fly out. I'm sure there are plenty of reasonably priced flights into Denver from most Summit League airports.

[tjbison]

Honestly it is a huge stretch to say that adding both would make for significant increase in travel. You fly into Denver, play both schools for basketball or volleyball or soccer and then fly out. I'm sure there are plenty of reasonably priced flights into Denver from most Summit League airports.

Flying for SDSU and USD is alot different than for NDSU, our kids can basically walk to the airport, bus rides to Sioux Falls for the other 2, but i agree went to Cali and Utah for years CO would be great

[roadwarrior]

I don't think Air Force and Denver would cause a significant increase in travel costs. Two teams roughly an hour apart is ideal for basketball and volleyball scheduling. You can get a direct flight to Denver from just about anywhere in the midwest.