Summit Expansion?

[tjbison]

The way it sounded is that the idea was to look for school is major metro areas so I doubt the DSU's are even on that radar.

Morphing into a PRivate dominant league is they go this route, not going to pull any State schools from Major metros. Wonder what the Broke State MVC schools thing of this in reality

[ndsubison1]

Not that the Summit needs new teams right now, but if WIU left, could UCA be an option now that the Southland has imploded? I know there is talk of them moving to the Atlantic Sun, but if that does not pan out, would UCA ever be on the table? They are another Southern baseball school only 3.5 hrs from Oral Roberts, so they could make ORU happier and it could help with conference stability/reduce the threat of ORU leaving, plus it would be good for Summit baseball in the spring. They are also within driving distance to UMKC at 5.5 hours. Unlikely for it to happen, but if the Summit ever did need to add football, they have a decent program there as well.

Just wanted to throw them out there, because there has always been the idea that UNC could be a fill in if WIU ever leaves, but I have never seen UCA mentioned. They do have a smaller budget, but I'm just curious what you guys thoughts would be on this. And would UCA have any interest? Their football team could play in a football only conference or maybe as an affiliate in the southland or somewhere else.

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I would take them and Northern Colorado

[ndsubison1]

The way it sounded is that the idea was to look for school is major metro areas so I doubt the DSU's are even on that radar.

Theyll look private schools if so, no way theyd allow the Dakota schools to take over that conference

[NDSUstudent]

Fat chance they look at the DSU's. We're way too below them in their eyes.

Not sure that is the issue, football and geography are bigger issues with the MVC. The private schools despise scholarship football and don't want to grow its presence in the league.

[DePereBisonFan]

Probably looking at Denver U

[NDSUstudent]

Probably looking at Denver U

Maybe if their basketball program wasn't in shambles.

I could see them looking into Texas or the South, I don't think a western school does much for them.

[Hammersmith]

Probably looking at Denver U

Doubtful. Denver has had opportunities to join the MVC and effectively turned them down.* Nothing has changed since then.


*Denver and the MVC talked when Denver left the WAC. The MVC told Denver they would consider them if Denver added some MVC-sponsored sports. Denver told the MVC they were happy with what they had, and they took the Summit offer which didn't include any demands.

[bruinbison]

This article - expansion a topic way down at the bottom of the blog - talks of Murray State being a desired candidate. And this is only being talked of due to the MVC having a new commissioner (?).
If Murray State were to come on board, then Belmont would be the next target.

https://www.missourivalleybeat.com/p...for-the-valley

[nodak651]

Matt Brown, who broke the WAC/Southland/AtlanticSun stories and some MVC news, seems to think that the MVC is targeting UTA, based on FOIA requests. While the UTA possibility is somewhat old news now, he now thinks that Little Rock might end up in the Summit league - I assume based on new FOIA requests.

See post #25 https://csnbbs.com/thread-924859-page-2.html
and post #58 https://csnbbs.com/thread-921547-page-3.html

Little Rock would make for a great travel partner if the MVC doesn't take Oral Roberts. Little Rock would probably have the best arena in the league, imo. What do you guys think of this? Would Little Rock improve the league? It would certainly be better than an Augie addition... Travel partners could then be UST/SDSU, USD/UNO, DU/UMKC,ORU/ULR. WIU would have to be gone obviously.

[mvfcfan]

Sycamore fan here. I have long been an advocate of adding NDSU and SDSU to the MVC. Unfortunately the reality is that the private schools would never go for it and I believe 75% of the members have to vote "yes" for a new member to be added. Drake might go for it, but Valpo, Loyola, Evansville, and Bradley would be definite "no's". Embarrassingly enough I'm not even sure if Indiana State would vote "yes" because of travel.

I don't see the UT Arlington thing ever happening. If it does then Indiana State might need to find a new league, because that would be a pretty embarrassing addition. I thought it was pretty bad when we looked at Omaha (that isn't meant to be a put down either), but Arlington would be even worse.

Personally if the MVC could add Murray State and go to 11 I would be pretty happy with it. At least then we would have 6 schools for an AQ for the FCS playoffs (if the MVFC ever broke up) and Murray a pretty good basketball program practically in our own backyard. I think the MVC's dream is to add Belmont, who turned the MVC down in 2013 and 2017.