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    there really arent any options anyways to boost the summits profile. except uvu and suu arent good schools in the first place

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    Long time without a stop, thought I would add the teams I would like to see and see what people think up north.

    Oklahoma City University.... http://ocusports.com/

    Lindenwood.... (St. Charles, Mo.) http://www.lindenwoodlions.com/

    Robert Morris (Chicago).... http://www.rmueagles.com/

    All three are in nice metro areas with endowments capable of funding whatever move is necessary. Lindenwood is DII and the other two are elite NAIA schools. A huge point to make is that none of these schools would have a football issues if bumped up. Ok City doesn't sponsor football and Robert Morris and Lindenwood could move their football teams to other campus's that sponsor sports in lower division like the United States Collegiate Athletic Association (http://www.theuscaa.com/landing/index)or maintain NAIA teams again at another campus. At the very least two of the three if added (maybe leave Robert Morris out and add Chicago State) would bring dramatic stability. I was shocked the MVC didn't look at Oklahoma City University considering the proximity to Wichita.

    I am tired of worrying about the SL. Travel is an issue, numbers, and so on. With no support for Summit League football we could be killed off to serve the needs of the MVC and HL. Western is gaurenteed nothing so I'd like to prevent a collapse. These schools are bring something to the table IMO.

    It would help Western a great deal to bring in St. Louis and Chicago for travel, the Dakotas kill our budget compared to what it would be in the MVC, OVC, or HL. Recruiting would be helped as well for everyone. Having a link to three major cities allows for SL teams to reach on recruits currently not in play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western4Life View Post
    Long time without a stop, thought I would add the teams I would like to see and see what people think up north.

    Oklahoma City University.... http://ocusports.com/

    Lindenwood.... (St. Charles, Mo.) http://www.lindenwoodlions.com/

    Robert Morris (Chicago).... http://www.rmueagles.com/

    All three are in nice metro areas with endowments capable of funding whatever move is necessary. Lindenwood is DII and the other two are elite NAIA schools. A huge point to make is that none of these schools would have a football issues if bumped up. Ok City doesn't sponsor football and Robert Morris and Lindenwood could move their football teams to other campus's that sponsor sports in lower division like the United States Collegiate Athletic Association (http://www.theuscaa.com/landing/index)or maintain NAIA teams again at another campus. At the very least two of the three if added (maybe leave Robert Morris out and add Chicago State) would bring dramatic stability. I was shocked the MVC didn't look at Oklahoma City University considering the proximity to Wichita.

    I am tired of worrying about the SL. Travel is an issue, numbers, and so on. With no support for Summit League football we could be killed off to serve the needs of the MVC and HL. Western is gaurenteed nothing so I'd like to prevent a collapse. These schools are bring something to the table IMO.

    It would help Western a great deal to bring in St. Louis and Chicago for travel, the Dakotas kill our budget compared to what it would be in the MVC, OVC, or HL. Recruiting would be helped as well for everyone. Having a link to three major cities allows for SL teams to reach on recruits currently not in play.
    I think the only real scenario involves the Horizon taking who it wants from the summit and leaving the rest to fend for themselves. which schools that will be is a crap shoot but I'm guessing its going to come down to money, facilities, support, location in that order. lets face it the Summit has no power to lure anyone, I'm guessing Denver is going to be a 1 year member looking for something better
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjbison View Post
    I think the only real scenario involves the Horizon taking who it wants from the summit and leaving the rest to fend for themselves. which schools that will be is a crap shoot but I'm guessing its going to come down to money, facilities, support, location in that order. lets face it the Summit has no power to lure anyone, I'm guessing Denver is going to be a 1 year member looking for something better
    I think the order of importance will be location, location, money, facilities, location, support. Its held pretty true in all previous mid major conference additions so far. I don't expect anything to change with the Horizon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzled View Post
    I think the order of importance will be location, location, money, facilities, location, support. Its held pretty true in all previous mid major conference additions so far. I don't expect anything to change with the Horizon.
    So then IUPUI and IPFW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DePereBisonFan View Post
    So then IUPUI and IPFW?
    I have given up trying to predict any of this. A school in the Indianapolis market makes sense. I always thought about travel for just basketball but what will break some of these schools is the travel requirements for the non-revenue sports. That is what hurts us and SDSU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western4Life View Post
    Long time without a stop, thought I would add the teams I would like to see and see what people think up north.

    Oklahoma City University.... http://ocusports.com/

    Lindenwood.... (St. Charles, Mo.) http://www.lindenwoodlions.com/

    Robert Morris (Chicago).... http://www.rmueagles.com/

    All three are in nice metro areas with endowments capable of funding whatever move is necessary. Lindenwood is DII and the other two are elite NAIA schools. A huge point to make is that none of these schools would have a football issues if bumped up. Ok City doesn't sponsor football and Robert Morris and Lindenwood could move their football teams to other campus's that sponsor sports in lower division like the United States Collegiate Athletic Association (http://www.theuscaa.com/landing/index)or maintain NAIA teams again at another campus. At the very least two of the three if added (maybe leave Robert Morris out and add Chicago State) would bring dramatic stability. I was shocked the MVC didn't look at Oklahoma City University considering the proximity to Wichita.

    I am tired of worrying about the SL. Travel is an issue, numbers, and so on. With no support for Summit League football we could be killed off to serve the needs of the MVC and HL. Western is gaurenteed nothing so I'd like to prevent a collapse. These schools are bring something to the table IMO.

    It would help Western a great deal to bring in St. Louis and Chicago for travel, the Dakotas kill our budget compared to what it would be in the MVC, OVC, or HL. Recruiting would be helped as well for everyone. Having a link to three major cities allows for SL teams to reach on recruits currently not in play.
    I like the idea of Lindenwood, but I also still would like to see a MN school come on board. Adding a school near Minneapolis would provide a lot of value for the Summit. Lets say Oakland leaves(which seems very likely) my new Summit...

    NDSU-SCSU or MN State(Mankato)
    SDSU-USD
    UNO-Denver
    IPFW-IUPUI
    WIU-Lindenwood

    OKC would have been nice if ORU was still around. Bellarmine and Southern Indiana are a couple of other schools the Summit could look at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSUstudent View Post
    I like the idea of Lindenwood, but I also still would like to see a MN school come on board. Adding a school near Minneapolis would provide a lot of value for the Summit. Lets say Oakland leaves(which seems very likely) my new Summit...

    NDSU-SCSU or MN State(Mankato)
    SDSU-USD
    UNO-Denver
    IPFW-IUPUI
    WIU-Lindenwood

    OKC would have been nice if ORU was still around. Bellarmine and Southern Indiana are a couple of other schools the Summit could look at.
    A Minnesota school sure makes us look less remote on a map! At least the states touch
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSUstudent View Post
    I like the idea of Lindenwood, but I also still would like to see a MN school come on board. Adding a school near Minneapolis would provide a lot of value for the Summit. Lets say Oakland leaves(which seems very likely) my new Summit...

    NDSU-SCSU or MN State(Mankato)
    SDSU-USD
    UNO-Denver
    IPFW-IUPUI
    WIU-Lindenwood

    OKC would have been nice if ORU was still around. Bellarmine and Southern Indiana are a couple of other schools the Summit could look at.

    ^^^^THIS

    I would be fine with Minnesota State Mankato joining the SL. Lindenwood and Minn St. would make nice additions for the sanity of all. On a side note having Minn St., Omaha, DU, could open a door for UND. LU has D1 women's hockey and the men's club is nationally ranked with eyes toward upgrading men's too. A lot of hockey in that mix which helps rivalries etc. Adding two football teams to the MVFC would be required IMO for any SL additions. If we are talking Minn. St. and St. Cloud there after which could drop football easier? Hate to ask but it is a tough situation.

    If possible to adding Minn St., LU, UND the three together would offer long term stability with two joining the MVFC and one dropping football (obviously that is between LU & Minn St).

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    I'm guessing it would possible for a school to drop scholarships and join the Pioneer for football, that might be better than just dropping the program.

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