Sagarin says

[Hammerhead]

Wrong. The Vikings won the 1969 NFL championship. The Superbowl between the NFL and AFL champions didn't start until the following season.

Because they are fans of their team. Everyone likes to support their team. Why do people pay to watch the Twins, T-wolves, Oakland Raiders, _nd the list could go on. Just because your team is not good one year, does not mean they cant turn it around. If your a true fan, of a team you hold on, and hope things turn around.

Why would anyone be a Vikings fan? They usually suck, and never won a championship?

[taper]

Wrong. The Vikings won the 1969 NFL championship. The Superbowl between the NFL and AFL champions didn't start until the following season.

?? I'm pretty sure the Vikings lost Super Bowl IV to end that season. NFL-AFL hadn't merged yet but they had the SB.

[bisonboone11]

Wrong. The Vikings won the 1969 NFL championship. The Superbowl between the NFL and AFL champions didn't start until the following season.

Yeah, and they also won NFC Championships in 1973, 1974, and 1976. (We won't mention that they went on to lose the Super Bowl in all of these years)

[Herd12]

Wrong. The Vikings won the 1969 NFL championship. The Superbowl between the NFL and AFL champions didn't start until the following season.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_I

There ya go!

[Loud and Proud Bison fan]

Wrong. The Vikings won the 1969 NFL championship. The Superbowl between the NFL and AFL champions didn't start until the following season.

Ok, most of you are making my point. The Vikings usually do stink, and most of you still care. The same goes for ISU, they are passionate about their team and hope that each new season, they will get better and thrive. I will not make fun of a person's favorite team, we are all entitled to our opinions. Heck, I wont make fun of random ppl for being passionate fans, the only ppl I make fun of are those I know can take and will deal $hit right back. Sorry to go off track topic on this thread, I was just sticking up for all those people making fun of ISU fans. That is just not right to do.

[bisonboone11]

Ok, most of you are making my point. The Vikings usually do stink, and most of you still care. The same goes for ISU, they are passionate about their team and hope that each new season, they will get better and thrive. I will not make fun of a person's favorite team, we are all entitled to our opinions. Heck, I wont make fun of random ppl for being passionate fans, the only ppl I make fun of are those I know can take and will deal $hit right back. Sorry to go off track topic on this thread, I was just sticking up for all those people making fun of ISU fans. That is just not right to do.

I agree. The people that only care when the team is good are the definition of bandwagon fans. I will admit that I am a Vikings fan. I always have been and always will be. I'm a Bison fan too. I always knew I was going to NDSU. I will always be a fan, even in the bad years.

[Hammerhead]

The first two Bison games we attended in person after leaving North Dakota were both losses in 2008 so I guess that we've stuck with them in the down years too.

[mnriverbison]

I agree. The people that only care when the team is good are the definition of bandwagon fans. I will admit that I am a Vikings fan. I always have been and always will be. I'm a Bison fan too. I always knew I was going to NDSU. I will always be a fan, even in the bad years.

Ditto. My enjoyment of sports goes well beyond if my team is dominant and I can get into shoe-size contests with people about how my team is better-basically the adult version of my dad can beat up your dad. As if your team's on field performance says anything at all about you as a person-what a bizarre existence.

The Bison are great. That's icing on the cake. We won't miss you when (and it's when, not if) this run ends and you all become Nebraska fans or whatever.

[Hammersmith]

Well, I managed to delete my sagarin excel spreadsheet over the summer, so I'm rebuilding from scratch (again). I haven't picked which of the sagarin columns I plan to use, but all four are the same for now, so I can put off that decision. Bison favored in every game. Will do the FCS top-25 and conference top-whatever maybe this weekend.

				Sagarin	 Predict  Result  Diff

 46	North Dakota State	 75.15			
 64	Iowa State		 70.23	   1.80		
192	Weber State		 43.63	  28.40		
206	Incarnate Word		 40.73	  37.54		
103	Montana			 62.20	  16.07		
171	Western Illinois	 49.49	  22.54		
109	Southern Illinois	 61.16	  17.11		
186	Indiana State		 58.44	  19.83		
156	South Dakota		 52.62	  19.41		
 76	South Dakota State	 67.49	  10.78		
 86	Northern Iowa		 65.92	   6.11		
136	Missouri State		 56.57	  15.46		
 98	Youngstown State	 62.48	  15.79		
				 	
127	Illinois State		 58.44			
					Total Diff:	0.00
	Home Field		  3.12

[TateMosersneighbor]

Well, I managed to delete my sagarin excel spreadsheet over the summer, so I'm rebuilding from scratch (again). I haven't picked which of the sagarin columns I plan to use, but all four are the same for now, so I can put off that decision. Bison favored in every game. Will do the FCS top-25 and conference top-whatever maybe this weekend.

				Sagarin	 Predict  Result  Diff

 46	North Dakota State	 75.15			
 64	Iowa State		 70.23	   1.80		
192	Weber State		 43.63	  28.40		
206	Incarnate Word		 40.73	  37.54		
103	Montana			 62.20	  16.07		
171	Western Illinois	 49.49	  22.54		
109	Southern Illinois	 61.16	  17.11		
186	Indiana State		 58.44	  19.83		
156	South Dakota		 52.62	  19.41		
 76	South Dakota State	 67.49	  10.78		
 86	Northern Iowa		 65.92	   6.11		
136	Missouri State		 56.57	  15.46		
 98	Youngstown State	 62.48	  15.79		
				 	
127	Illinois State		 58.44			
					Total Diff:	0.00
	Home Field		  3.12

so you're saying there's a chance...