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    A new dome would probably seat 30-35k, you can't really build it to expand outside of maybe adding a small chunk of seating which is what we see now. It would definitely push $500 milion+.

    The dome is in a situation where they are way behind every major facility in the region when it comes to premium seating, the facility is pretty much living in the stone age in that regard. Something has to be done and probably will be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonp View Post
    They only sold out two games all season. Against the same team. How do you figure on justifying the cost of a brand new stadium with over 6,000 more seats? How will they recoup that investment?
    Your forgetting the season ticket base. Right now, most people just assume that there is no way to get tickets so they don't even try. All season tickets are sold out witt the only thing available being student GA tickets that go up for sale the Friday before the game. Right now we have 12.5 +/- season tickets available. What if we could see another 5000 season tickets and have 1000 available for GA every week. It would still be the same situation we are in now where most games wouldn't sell out except for the big games but the difference would be that we would have a season ticket base of 17K instead of 12K. Who cares if they show up every week. We are leaving money on the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBison View Post
    Your forgetting the season ticket base. Right now, most people just assume that there is no way to get tickets so they don't even try. All season tickets are sold out witt the only thing available being student GA tickets that go up for sale the Friday before the game. Right now we have 12.5 +/- season tickets available. What if we could see another 5000 season tickets and have 1000 available for GA every week. It would still be the same situation we are in now where most games wouldn't sell out except for the big games but the difference would be that we would have a season ticket base of 17K instead of 12K. Who cares if they show up every week. We are leaving money on the table.
    There is no partner to build you this pipe dream. And the money from 5000 seats doesn’t come close to covering the cost to construct it. Therefore we are not leaving money on the table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBison View Post
    Your forgetting the season ticket base. Right now, most people just assume that there is no way to get tickets so they don't even try. All season tickets are sold out witt the only thing available being student GA tickets that go up for sale the Friday before the game. Right now we have 12.5 +/- season tickets available. What if we could see another 5000 season tickets and have 1000 available for GA every week. It would still be the same situation we are in now where most games wouldn't sell out except for the big games but the difference would be that we would have a season ticket base of 17K instead of 12K. Who cares if they show up every week. We are leaving money on the table.
    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    There is no partner to build you this pipe dream. And the money from 5000 seats doesn’t come close to covering the cost to construct it. Therefore we are not leaving money on the table.
    You're both correct. AK is correct that you can't use the number of non-sellouts to say the demand isn't there when there's a waiting list for season tickets and the preseason single game tickets sell out in minutes or hours. But Audit is correct that the number of sales you would gain is nowhere near the cost of the project. The ROI would be ridiculously in the negative. There's just no rational alternative to the situation we're in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSUstudent View Post
    A new dome would probably seat 30-35k, you can't really build it to expand outside of maybe adding a small chunk of seating which is what we see now. It would definitely push $500 milion+.

    The dome is in a situation where they are way behind every major facility in the region when it comes to premium seating, the facility is pretty much living in the stone age in that regard. Something has to be done and probably will be done.
    What do you define as premium seating?

    Row KK sidelines in the top 4 corners is a premium seat compared to NFL or Power 5 stadiums. There really are no bad seats.

    But suites and club seating? Hell yeah we are terrible

    I think it would make more sense to invest tens of of millions to do massive suites extending from end zone to end zone. It will be expensive AF but more realistic than a 500 million dollar dome.

    Also the proposed expansion of the concourses would be a massive upgrade across the board. From lighting to restrooms to concessions.

    No matter what it's going to be spendy spendy

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    What do you define as premium seating?

    Row KK sidelines in the top 4 corners is a premium seat compared to NFL or Power 5 stadiums. There really are no bad seats.

    But suites and club seating? Hell yeah we are terrible

    I think it would make more sense to invest tens of of millions to do massive suites extending from end zone to end zone. It will be expensive AF but more realistic than a 500 million dollar dome.

    Also the proposed expansion of the concourses would be a massive upgrade across the board. From lighting to restrooms to concessions.

    No matter what it's going to be spendy spendy
    Yeah, premium seating is clubs and suites. I don't think the dome can do an upgrade without adressing it. I won't compare it to a place like US Bank but even compared to SF arena, it is way behind the times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSUstudent View Post
    Yeah, premium seating is clubs and suites. I don't think the dome can do an upgrade without adressing it. I won't compare it to a place like US Bank but even compared to SF arena, it is way behind the times.
    Plus I couldn't imagine how bad ass it would be to have sky suites from endzone to endzone on the west side. You do a full side and it's a heck of a lot more than 480 seats. You add am extra 1000 suite seats, plus the north endzone, plus the addition to the concourses as part if the convention Center and we have one cool ass place

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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonp View Post
    They only sold out two games all season. Against the same team. How do you figure on justifying the cost of a brand new stadium with over 6,000 more seats? How will they recoup that investment?
    No new facility anywhere is justified or requires 100% sold out capacity for the majority of events before proceeding. Not to mention thousands of potential ticket buyers have given up trying to get tickets for Bison games over the past several years.

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