fargo dome turf

[No_Skill]

BV talks about Brian Ward, Kolpack writes about it. BV talks about the FD turf, he tweets about it. What do we want in tomorrows edition of the forum?

Lighting and turn up the damn volume to 11. I should not be able to have a quiet conversation with my wife during the intro.

[SDbison]

I assume the administration has been in talks with the Fargodome about fixing this situation...What needs to be done?

I guarantee the current turf is not helping bring in quality OOC FCS opponents. If you were a coach or AD for a Delaware or New Hampshire, would you want to increase your risk of injury (or just the increased recovery time on the body) by playing on this stuff, as opposed to going to somewhere that has FieldTurf or natural grass? We want to be a big-time FCS school, so maybe our playing surface should reflect that. It's a pride thing as well.

What needs to be done is someone with power at NDSU (i.e President, Athletic Director, head football coach) needs to put some pressure on the Fargodome to get this done soon. It needs to be a priority. If they ever need a project manager I would offer my services for a small consulting fee. This is the problem as there are no roadmaps, plans to execute the projects and someone following thru to assure issues are mitigated and schedules met.

[SDbison]

What needs to be done is someone with power at NDSU (i.e President, Athletic Director, head football coach) needs to put some pressure on the Fargodome to get this done soon. It needs to be a priority. If they ever need a project manager I would offer my services for a small consulting fee. This is the problem as there are no roadmaps, plans to execute the projects and someone following thru to assure issues are mitigated and schedules met.

I think I found a job I would really like and then I could move back to Fargo. Would that be awesome! New lighting project.......work with the dome and prospective companys to identify best option and coordinate installation plan. New turf same thing......... Also, could look at options for increasing capacity of the Fargodome or phased plan for increasing west lot parking spaces. The list goes on.

[CAS4127]

I think I found a job I would really like and then I could move back to Fargo. Would that be awesome! New lighting project.......work with the dome and prospective companys to identify best option and coordinate installation plan. New turf same thing......... Also, could look at options for increasing capacity of the Fargodome or phased plan for increasing west lot parking spaces. The list goes on.

But, in the end, it still would not be good enough, right SD?!

[SDbison]

But, in the end, it still would not be good enough, right SD?!

Every project has opportunities for improvement. Of course I am never happy unless the project completes on or ahead of schedule. For instance, if I was project manager for the lighting project I would really be pissed off! That was promised for completion in FY2010.

[CAS4127]

Every project has opportunities for improvement. Of course I am never happy unless the project completes on or ahead of schedule. For instance, if I was project manager for the lighting project I would really be pissed off! That was promised for completion in FY2010.

I guess I have been too busy watching the game. We now know why Howard dropped Jose's long ball--LAKES!!!!????

[HerdBot]

BV talks about Brian Ward, Kolpack writes about it. BV talks about the FD turf, he tweets about it. What do we want in tomorrows edition of the forum?

Nothing wrong with that. He's covering what's important and what people are taking about.

[walknroehl]

Care to link me to a study that shows FieldTurf, SpinTurf, MondoTurf, etc... lead to more injuries?

Sorry didn't see your reply until today:

http://www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage/AAOS/19020

http://www.hss.edu/conditions_artifi...prevention.asp

http://www.suite101.com/content/inju...l-grass-a70734

Also I made no comparison between astroturf and fieldturf in my previous post.

[tjbison]

Sorry didn't see your reply until today:

http://www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage/AAOS/19020

http://www.hss.edu/conditions_artifi...prevention.asp

http://www.suite101.com/content/inju...l-grass-a70734

Also I made no comparison between astroturf and fieldturf in my previous post.

GETCHOASS to the GDT

[clenz]

Sorry didn't see your reply until today:

http://www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage/AAOS/19020

http://www.hss.edu/conditions_artifi...prevention.asp

http://www.suite101.com/content/inju...l-grass-a70734

Also I made no comparison between astroturf and fieldturf in my previous post.

A couple issues I have with your links.

From the third link

The increased incidence of turf toe and muscle trauma relate to surface resistance on artificial field turf. A comparison of in-shoe foot loading patterns found that turf caused higher peak pressures in the central forefoot and lesser toes, while grass had higher pressures within the medial forefoot and lateral midfoot [Ford, et al. 2006].

Wearing proper footwear can be critical to avoiding injury

That can be said for any surface. Wrong footwear will always result in more injury if it is grass, dirt, turf, wood, cement, asphalt, granite, etc...

That link also states that there are three injuries more likely to occur on turf, two of which are turf toe and turf burns. I realize turf toe can happen on grass as well, but has of course turn burn happens more on turf than grass

The other injury listed is muscle trauma, yet they don't explain what muscle trauma consists of.

Yet, there is no mention of injuries of note in that links.

The second link touches on knee injuries, but also states that a player needs to "get his foot stuck in the turf" for these thinks to happen...which can happen on any surface.

The first link also states

Hershman acknowledged that the analysis was unable to control for other possibly contributing factors, such as the players' footwear.

So it isn't the turf causing the issues, it is improper footwear. All three links say as much.

The first link also talks about lineman and linebackers suffering more injuries, but then goes on to say - rather sneakily - that it is more than likely to do to increasing size and strength.

Brophy said linemen and linebackers might be disproportionately affected because they sustain a high degree of physical contact, undergo extensive strength training, are often larger athletes making contact with other large athletes, and often have their shoulders in positions of risk because of blocking and tackling duties.

Another study, reported by Wellington Hsu, MD, of Northwestern University in Chicago, evaluated the effect of another injury to which NFL players are prone because of their exposure to high-velocity trauma on a regular basis -- cervical disc herniation.

The studies, while seemingly conclusive, are anything but