Unfireable Head Coach

[Bison06]

Lately I have been wondering what makes a school decide that through thick and thin they have found their guy to coach the football team. What makes Penn State decide to keep Joe Paterno for this long, what makes Florida State keep Bobby Bowden all of these years? What would it take for a coach to become this type of coach for the Bison, 1 national championship, 2? I am always curious about this because in this day and age in college football winning is everything. It seems a coach has 2 maybe 3 years to bring a team to where the school wants it to be and then cans the guy if it doesn't happen quickly.

We have all been talking lately about all of the coaching turnover the Bison have experienced and looked at it as a negative to the program, but in the next breath we are quick to say that if Coach Bohl doesn't win 8 games next year he is done. Now, without looking I can say for certain that both Penn St. and Florida St. have had ups and downs during their respective coaches tenures, yet they weren't fired. Now certainly NDSU has great tradition in football, noone can argue that. But both Penn St. and Florida St. have more in my opinion and have fan bases that I'm sure are just as if not more critical of the program when things don't go well.

This post isn't to say lay off Coach Bohl, not one bit, I think he deserves some heat for our past 2 seasons. All I am asking is, if turnover is such a bad thing in the college football coaching world, why aren't we looking for some stability out of the head coach here. If we as a school and a fan base don't have any loyalty to our coaches, how do we expect quality assistants to come in and be loyal to the program and not leave when a higher paying job comes calling. At what point do we say, if ever, this coach is our guy good, bad or ugly, because he epitomizes Bison football and we want him to represent us?

[Tatanka]

Lately I have been wondering what makes a school decide that through thick and thin they have found their guy to coach the football team. What makes Penn State decide to keep Joe Paterno for this long, what makes Florida State keep Bobby Bowden all of these years? What would it take for a coach to become this type of coach for the Bison, 1 national championship, 2? I am always curious about this because in this day and age in college football winning is everything. It seems a coach has 2 maybe 3 years to bring a team to where the school wants it to be and then cans the guy if it doesn't happen quickly. We have all been talking lately about all of the coaching turnover the Bison have experienced and looked at it as a negative to the program, but in the next breath we are quick to say that if Coach Bohl doesn't win 8 games next year he is done. Now, without looking I can say for certain that both Penn St. and Florida St. have had ups and downs during their respective coaches tenures, yet they weren't fired. Now certainly NDSU has great tradition in football, noone can argue that. But both Penn St. and Florida St. have more in my opinion and have fan bases that I'm sure are just as if not more critical of the program when things don't go well. This post isn't to say lay off Coach Bohl, not one bit, I think he deserves some heat for our past 2 seasons. All I am asking is, if turnover is such a bad thing in the college football coaching world, why aren't we looking for some stability out of the head coach here. If we as a school and a fan base don't have any loyalty to our coaches, how do we expect quality assistants to come in and be loyal to the program and not leave when a higher paying job comes calling. At what point do we say, if ever, this coach is our guy good, bad or ugly, because he epitomizes Bison football and we want him to represent us?

[EndZoneQB]

Didn't even read it.

[Bison06]

You guys are hilarious, people post their thesis on here with no complaints and I push out a 300 word paragraph and get complaints. I'll edit.

[tjbison]

You guys are hilarious, people post their thesis on here with no complaints and I push out a 300 word paragraph and get complaints. I'll edit.

your fine leave it alone

[EndZoneQB]

You guys are hilarious, people post their thesis on here with no complaints and I push out a 300 word paragraph and get complaints. I'll edit.

And I don't read them either haha. Either way, just got home from work so I was just lazy in this case and felt like piling on.

[56BISON73]

I guess you have to define---who is WE? As far as administration is concerned I am sure they would love to have a low turn over rate. Administration has much more patience than boosters and fans.

Boosters and fans are great at knee jerk reactions and call for the coaches head when the record doesnt meet THEIR expectations.

I posted awhile back that if fans want loyalty out of coaches then they should be loyal to the coaches in the lean times as well. Anybody can be a fan when the team is winning.

[Bison06]

Let's be honest though, it is boosters who make the real decisions. Pressure from the people who donate to a program can get a coach fired in a hurry. But, the point still stands then, if this is the case why hasn't Joe Paterno been fired or why hasn't Bobby Bowden been let go until now. It has to be about more than wins and losses IMO. We need a coach who represents what NDSU is about and we need to keep him win, lose or draw. That way assistants who want to be here will come and stay and players will come here to be a part of something more than a football team. Just my opinion I guess.

[ndsubison1]

Let's be honest though, it is boosters who make the real decisions. Pressure from the people who donate to a program can get a coach fired in a hurry. But, the point still stands then, if this is the case why hasn't Joe Paterno been fired or why hasn't Bobby Bowden been let go until now. It has to be about more than wins and losses IMO. We need a coach who represents what NDSU is about and we need to keep him win, lose or draw. That way assistants who want to be here will come and stay and players will come here to be a part of something more than a football team. Just my opinion I guess.

because they're the two winningest coaches in college football

[Bison06]

Well I would argue that is because they have been the longest tenured coaches, not because they enjoyed the most success in the short term. You also can't tell me either of those programs hasn't had 2 seasons like we just had over the course of the program.