College Football FBS/FCS discussion thread

[NorthernBison]

Question for you from this last game.

USD throws interception. After the throw we get a roughing call. During the return USD gets a block below the waste call. The refs said because they were off setting penalties USD retains possession and its still 1st down . A retired official I know said at half time that it wasnt the fact it was offsetting penalties it was because of the PF against the QB was the reason there wasnt a change of possession after the interception.

Which one is correct?

Typically, offsetting penalties negates the play. That's what they did. It remained 1st and 15 at the 34 yard line.

The PF roughing the passer pretty much made it certain no interception would stand. Technically, that makes him right.

Without the low block on them on the return, they would have been 1st and 10 at the 19.



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[56BISON73]

If both teams commit live ball fouls during a down (other than unsportsmanlike or non-player fouls), it is considered a double foul and the penalties offset. An exception to that is if there is a change of possession and the team in possession at the end of the down did not commit their foul before they gained that last possession. If that happens, that team has the option to decline their opponent's penalty to retain possession. This is unofficially referred to as the "clean hands" rule.

Based on your description the foul by the Bison was PRIOR to the change of possession so the exception would not apply. The Bison did not get the ball with clean hands. So both the referee and your official friend are right. The timing of the foul by the Bison is critical in a situation like this because it determines if there is a double foul situation.

A good example would be if the offense was guilty of holding prior to an interception, and the defense was guilty of a block in the back during the return. The defense could decline the holding penalty, but the block in the back would be enforced. The defense would keep the ball first an 10 after the enforcement of the block in the back penalty. There are rare exceptions where the team last in possession would accept the penalty because the other option might be worse for them.

Thank you and to the others that responded.

[56BISON73]

If FBS is Big Boy Football why do they have a Mickey Mouse playoff system?

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Temple goes 10-3, wins the AAC title and their reward? A bowl game in against 6-6 Wake Forest!!

I have honestly no clue why schools move up to be part of the charade. The bowl system is flawed (err, corrupt) beyond belief.

[1993bison]

Temple goes 10-3, wins the AAC title and their reward? A bowl game in against 6-6 Wake Forest!!

I have honestly no clue why schools move up to be part of the charade. The bowl system is flawed (err, corrupt) beyond belief.

I spoke to an old cowboy out west today and his description of FBS was they are a "chicken shit outfit". Pretty tough to argue with that statement.

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[MNLonghorn10]

Temple goes 10-3, wins the AAC title and their reward? A bowl game in against 6-6 Wake Forest!!

I have honestly no clue why schools move up to be part of the charade. The bowl system is flawed (err, corrupt) beyond belief.

What about Western Michigan?

[ByeSonBusiness]

What about Western Michigan?

Cotton Bowl vs. Wisconsin is weak.

Jk pj fleck's last game coaching the Broncos, wouldn't miss it for the world.

[WYOBISONMAN]

Lord how I want Alabama to get clubbed. Looks like it will be up to Clemson to do it.

[MNLonghorn10]

Lolol. Clemson is going to lose to Ohio state

[SC_TX]

Temple goes 10-3, wins the AAC title and their reward? A bowl game in against 6-6 Wake Forest!!

I have honestly no clue why schools move up to be part of the charade. The bowl system is flawed (err, corrupt) beyond belief.

There is too much of a gap between power 5 and non power 5. Even for the American conference which is pretty good and is almost power 5 quality. I mean South Florida goes 10-2 and never once was in the stupid committees poll instead they put teams that are 8-4 at #14 like Auburn.

They need to either lessen the gap between power 5 and group of 5 or just join the group of 5 with the best of FCS and become a new division.

[SC_TX]

Temple goes 10-3, wins the AAC title and their reward? A bowl game in against 6-6 Wake Forest!!

I have honestly no clue why schools move up to be part of the charade. The bowl system is flawed (err, corrupt) beyond belief.

There is too much of a gap between power 5 and non power 5. Even for the American conference which is pretty good and is almost power 5 quality. I mean South Florida goes 10-2 and never once was in the stupid committees poll instead they put teams that are 8-4 at #14 like Auburn.

They need to either lessen the gap between power 5 and group of 5 or just join the group of 5 with the best of FCS and become a new division.