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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    What we really need is for the MVC to see their conference as more than a basketball/baseball conference. Based on the number of non-football schools in the conference, I don't see that happening.
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    I did not realize that the Summit attendance last year was 40.8% higher than Southland's (2080 to 1477), and I can see the Summit improving on that this year. No wonder ORU wants out. That said,...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Have a little faith. We've been told that Douple has a LONG LIST of powerhouse D1 programs whose AD is just waiting for an invite.

    BTW, IMO, there are still plenty of possible dominos to fall...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    That's true. What COULD lead to some sort of negotiation would be if there was a mandate to move it somewhere else on a rotation and there was a perceived benefit. Long shot? Probably.
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Very interesting.
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Then Fargo needs to find another venue. Without a LONG TERM commitment, there is little chance the Fargodome is going to give up their slot in the touring Sportsman's show that travels the Midwest. ...
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    IMO, the perfect size is 10 members. 8 is NOT...

    IMO, the perfect size is 10 members.

    8 is NOT enough when basketball requires 7 for the autobid. More than 10 gets financially unattractive for a one-bid conference.

    I hope that getting a...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    YSU is the Wild Card. With the 5 MVC programs and YSU, they have enough for a conference. They could tell us to pound sand.
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    The ultimate "Reality Check" is when you remind yourself that the Summit is a place most schools still look to get OUT of. (That includes NDSU, SDSU, etc)

    It gets downright depressing when you...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    I'm not sure I buy that logic. You have a right to your opinion.

    Chicago State was NAIA in the 80's and they did move up to D1 in 1994 so I give them some credit for seeing the future. Although,...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    I don't think he's saying there is no affiliation. What you said is technically correct but probably has close to zero relevance as pertaining specifically to NDSU.

    The Gorilla in the room is...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    I guess I was indicating that the Hockey situation didn't help. I was thinking about dollars spent since hockey is expensive. I can see where football would really help bring the participation...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    I thought that's what I said. (without any numbers)
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    It's more than just scholarships. Total support and opportunities matter. That includes coaches salaries, recruiting budgets, etc.

    They have men's hockey. No women's hockey. End of story.
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    Great. That should make us a lock for full MVC...

    Great. That should make us a lock for full MVC membership since we pose little threat in their primary sport. I wonder how soon until they offer. Sorry. Couldn't resist.
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    The story we have heard is that the MVFC initially wanted SDSU and was reluctant about adding NDSU. The story is that SDSU insisted on a "package deal". To date, nobody has refuted that so I'm...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    I get that but, even our own attitudes indicate that geography tends to be way more important than stable administration, committed fanbase, etc. Look at the horrible support some of our conference...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    I think Fullerton and the Big Sky Presidents were looking at a couple things. First of all, the changes in conference affiliation were constantly changing and every day seemed to bring a new...
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    You brought up the autobid. That has zero...

    You brought up the autobid. That has zero relevance in the decision to add or not add.

    The Big Sky move as it regards football was based almost exclusively on Fullerton's belief that a western...
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    BSC move was to preserve programs in the West. ...

    BSC move was to preserve programs in the West. They weren't concerned about the autobid and more teams didn't create a problem. Why would it?

    UND did jump the gun. They couldn't wait to cancel...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    The GWFC posed no "threat" to the BSC. The writing was on the wall though that the GWFC would not last. Cal Poly and UC Davis were extremely vulnerable and SUU and USD had homes for everything but...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    The Big Sky is infinitely more stable than the Summit. (I don't know how anybody could argue that)

    It wasn't that long ago that the Summit was at 10 members competing for one autobid. (So what...
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    I doubt if any Commissioner takes any departure...

    I doubt if any Commissioner takes any departure lightly but SUU was gone no matter what

    This is more about the MVFC and their interest in keeping the Summit breathing. Why else would they have...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    I think it is baseless. It happened as a result of Douple calling up Patty on the eve of losing TWO existing Summit members and one potential member to the BSC. Couple that with Patty quickly...
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