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This team has the chance to be the best ever if they can put it all together. I think that is what unbison is trying to say here and I agree with it.

I agree that this team ultimately does need to get to the dance in order to have this debate.

As for what happens if we get there...it all depends on the match up. The team SDSU played made it to...

The 08-09 team had no bench.

I realize this team doesn't have a great bench but it is at least serviceable.

I am not sure I agree with that. Marshall gives this team an edge against teams with good to great bigs that the 08-09 team just didn't have.

We don't beat ND without Marshall, ND has great...

Izzo says it every week on the blog and I just shake my head.

What happened this year is really all that matters.

There is a huge difference in SOS...

2013-2014: non-conference SOS 19...overall SOS 120...3-3 vs top 100
2008-2009: non-conference SOS 168... overall SOS 290....0-3 vs top 100