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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Not an option for USD. Title IX in SD is measured by participants & spending, not scholarships. USD is already out of compliance on both fronts. Don't know Denver's situation.
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Right. Because that's what I said.
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Yeah, well UMKC doesn't sponsor baseball.
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Good riddance to UMKC. They were a seat-filler in every sport except tennis and golf. And that one year in women's basketball.
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Pretty sure Sioux Falls would outbid Fargo. They've got thousands of SDSU fans who treat the Summit Tournament the way Bison fans treat the FCS playoffs.
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Because of scheduling oddities, Sioux Falls has, on occasion, hosted both events at the same time. Image here gives you a bit of an idea about the Arena/convention center layout:...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    If the tournament had remained in Ft. Wayne, I find it difficult to imagine Valpo admins preferring to travel to Cedar City, Tulsa, and Shreveport over travel to Green Bay, Cleveland and...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    I'll believe that when Minneapolis or St. Paul outbids Sioux Falls. They are certainly in a position to do so.
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Because this tournament was #11 in the country in total attendance last year. Because this tournament draws better crowds for schools like IUPUI and IPFW than those schools do in their own home...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Would IUPUI or IPFW turn down an invite from the Horizon because the tournament was in Indiana? They would not.

    If the location of the tournament makes no difference, then why change the location...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/Anonymous_donor_helps_ORUs_move_to_Southland_Conference/20111026_95_b1_cutlin18038

    Baseball is a big deal (the CWS pays shares, IIRC, ORU's baseball program...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Okay, assume the tournament is in the Palace every year.

    What happens when the Horizon invites Oakland? Do they say, 'nah, we're happy in the Summit because we host the tournament every year?'
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Meh. 180 in the Sagarin ratings, that's not awful, but it's wouldn't exactly boost the Summit's profile.

    If Denver's a long-term member of the Summit, maybe you look at adding another school out...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    That comment was directed primarily at AFA, which struggles in most Summit sports. Between the AFA & Denver there is only one decent Summit League program: Denver's basketball program.
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Yeah, well, I guess both of us underestimated the stupidity of UMKC's administration.

    The sad thing for the WAC is that UMKC gives them credibility.
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Maybe you're not confused, but I am.

    Did you mean that UNI, SIU, Illinois State, Indiana State and Missouri State would want to invite NDSU to the MVC, in order to keep them in the MVFC?
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Your wording implies confusion about the two conferences:



    The MVC is at no risk of losing NDSU to the Big Sky, as NDSU is not in the MVC.

    The MVFC may be at risk of losing NDSU to the Big...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    The MVFC is not the same as the MVC, and the short answer to your question is "No." The longer answer is "Hell no."
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Please. UND had nothing to do with the Montanas decision to stay FCS.
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Also, all you need to know about Fullerton is contained in his revisionist insistence that the Big Sky expansion was intended to undermine the WAC. Who honestly believes that SUU & UND were...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    I see only one conference as attractive to SDSU: The MVC.

    And I see SDSU's entrance to the MVC falling under two possible scenarios:

    SDSU records multiple sweet 16 appearances over a...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Well, you know what they say: 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer'.

    Frankly, requiring NDSU be included was, IMO, enlightened self-interest. It's in both universities' best interests...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Their FB program was FBS-level huge. They listed 138 participants last year.

    Hockey is expensive, but it's probably the only sport they've got that's even close to self-supporting.

    FYI: SDSU is...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Sorry, I thought you were implying that the problem stemmed from the hockey program.

    Cutting FB & wrestling brings them into Title IX compliance as far as participation goes. Cutting hockey or...
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    Re: Summit Expansion?

    Not quite.

    Enrollment: 48% male
    Participation: 61% male
    Expenditures: 70% male

    They've got a huge problem.
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