Re: 2018 Verbal: Trae Steckler
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Originally Posted by
Bisonator98
Hope he works out for you guys like that Grady kid.
Nice. Classy. Merry Christmas.
Re: 2018 Verbal: Trae Steckler
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Originally Posted by
thebigund
Nice. Classy. Merry Christmas.
Is he back in New Town working at the Casino or still playing? Last I heard he knocked some gal up, had to quit football then was thinking of coming back, but didn’t see that he was playing last year.
Re: PWO (accepted?): Trae Steckler
bisman
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Originally Posted by
BisManBison
Because he had committed to NDSU...see the link to a post on Facebook by his mother (personal friend, so no, I'm not creeping)...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater
While I'm disappointed he won't be playing for NDSU, can't blame the kid for taking the scholarship offer and wish him nothing but the best, except when he plays against the Bison, then I wish him and his teammates resounding failures :biggrin:
Still baffled by the rules surrounding walk ons, when can they be announced, are they free game, and if so, for how long?
speaking of his momma she sent me a whiny email on a facebook page I admin. "why didn't you add walk ons on your singing day lists huh? " mommy dearest thinks her boy is on par with 4 star Saybein Clark... hope that wasn't why he ran away
Re: 2018 Verbal: Trae Steckler
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Originally Posted by
RedRiver
The Bison will find someone else to fill that PWO spot. It's not like he was a recruited scholarship player that moved on to another program. The Bison didn't offer any money so he took what he could get somewhere else.
UND finally figured out that this is the only way they can get a recruit that NDSU is interested in, by offering money to those walk-ons that NDSU did not offer.
Re: 2018 Verbal: Trae Steckler
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Originally Posted by
thebigund
It’s pretty simple. You guys thought you had the guy as a PWO and we give him a late scholarship and steal him.
I think I heard the same comments from you regarding Mollberg, except that this is a walk on. And how can you steal something we never paid for? No scholly offered.
Re: 2018 Verbal: Trae Steckler
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Originally Posted by
2011BisonAlumni
Is he back in New Town working at the Casino or still playing? Last I heard he knocked some gal up, had to quit football then was thinking of coming back, but didn’t see that he was playing last year.
He's busy mentoring the new recruit Rain Slater.....
Re: 2018 Verbal: Trae Steckler
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Originally Posted by
JohnnyExtacy
So if they do sign, its against ncaa regulations for other cosches to contact signees. If he didnt sign anything, its against ncaa regulations for coaches to talk about unsigned recruits. Something is missing here.
PWO "signings" consist of the university presenting the recruit with an official offer of enrollment(the same thing every other student gets when they get accepted) and the recruit paying the standard deposit for enrollment. Once that's done, the university can publicly talk about the recruit. (I looked this up in the DI manual.) But unlike a NLI from a scholarship player, none of these documents are binding.
The prohibition on another program speaking to a PWO only applies after the first practice or the first day of classes, whichever comes first.
The only question really remaining is whether Steckler is actually officially signed(NLI) with UND. NDSU announced him on the 20th and UND did not. The signing period ended on the 22nd. So UND had to offer, Steckler had to accept, and Steckler had to sign the NLI on either the 21st or 22nd for the NLI to be valid. If UND/Steckler didn't get the paperwork done in time, then Steckler is really just a UND verbal until early Feb. when they can sign a binding NLI. Without that binding NLI, other schools could offer and Steckler could switch again without losing eligibility.
Not that this part really matters. Just a curiosity at this point. I support the kid in taking the offer that comes with money. No dislike from me, just a little fascination in how it all went down.
Re: 2018 Verbal: Trae Steckler
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Originally Posted by
Hammersmith
PWO "signings" consist of the university presenting the recruit with an official offer of enrollment(the same thing every other student gets when they get accepted) and the recruit paying the standard deposit for enrollment. Once that's done, the university can publicly talk about the recruit. (I looked this up in the DI manual.) But unlike a NLI from a scholarship player, none of these documents are binding.
The prohibition on another program speaking to a PWO only applies after the first practice or the first day of classes, whichever comes first.
The only question really remaining is whether Steckler is actually officially signed(NLI) with UND. NDSU announced him on the 20th and UND did not. The signing period ended on the 22nd. So UND had to offer, Steckler had to accept, and Steckler had to sign the NLI on either the 21st or 22nd for the NLI to be valid. If UND/Steckler didn't get the paperwork done in time, then Steckler is really just a UND verbal until early Feb. when they can sign a binding NLI. Without that binding NLI, other schools could offer and Steckler could switch again without losing eligibility.
Not that this part really matters. Just a curiosity at this point. I support the kid in taking the offer that comes with money. No dislike from me, just a little fascination in how it all went down.
If there is a problem, UND will just petition the NCAA...usually works out for them.
Re: 2018 Verbal: Trae Steckler
I was at my Dentist on December 22nd. His wife is Cousins with this kid. Him and his wife went to SDSU for their undergrads, so he was chuckling about having to cheer for NDSU when watching him play.
He made no mentioning of Trae going to UND. It was all NDSU talk.
Re: 2018 Verbal: Trae Steckler
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Originally Posted by
Bison"FANatic"
Ya a PWO does not sign anything binding. It could happen to all of our PWO's.
The more telling thing with this is that UND is putting our Walk-on's on Scholarship. Just let that sink in for minute!!!!!
Good luck to the kid!
Is this really that surprising? These programs are in two completely different places right now. The caliber PWO that NDSU usually gets, could play on Scholly a number of places. That is just what you get with Bison football right now. There are players that want to be there regardless of money, because they want to win. Makes sense to me. UND gets some of the same with hockey. It is just a testament to how good certain programs are.
Some kids aren't in the position to pass up a scholly though, whether it is from UND or anyone else. Also, who know what his educational ambitions are, and how those align with the school. Obviously, I'm a UND guy, but I see plenty of positive from both UND and NDSU in terms of education. If my kids ever decide to attend NDSU, I would naturally support that (though you won't get me to wear a gold shirt unless they're playing for a team :) )
I don't know much about this kid, but certainly hope he contributes to UND. I know we had some injuries last season, but OUCH. Need to gain a little more talent, and A LOT more depth, before we get to the MVFC.