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Womens BB New beginning
There was a tweet from NDSU Womens Basketball that the NDSU women were now practicing for the 1st season under
new head coach Jory Collins.
Also saw a tweet looking for Mens basketball players to practice against the womens team.
Pretty sure this is very common.
Go Bison!!
The new beginning!!!
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What we really need is Gene Roebuck...../purple
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THEsocalledfan
What we really need is Gene Roebuck...../purple
Not catching the significance even thought its purple...Amy Ruley used men to practice against the
women during her era also.
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Why are they specifying a gender identity for practice partners? Will there be a "gender test' before practice begins? Simply barbaric.
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imabison
Not catching the significance even thought its purple...Amy Ruley used men to practice against the
women during her era also.
I know a guy that used to practice against the Lynx, and Pat Summit had men practice against her teams as well. I thought it was standard.
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The women have used men for practice for years.
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BadlandsBison
Why are they specifying a gender identity for practice partners? Will there be a "gender test' before practice begins? Simply barbaric.
I doubt there are too many females on campus who aren't already on the team that would be competitive. They're trying to improve by playing against better athletes. Very common practice.
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Gully
I doubt there are too many females on campus who aren't already on the team that would be competitive. They're trying to improve by playing against better athletes. Very common practice.
I'm a woman AND a better athlete!
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BadlandsBison
I'm a woman AND a better athlete!
And I am sure if you contact Alyssa.rushton@NDSU.EDU and if they can use your assistance they will.
from @NDSUwbb on twitter.
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BadlandsBison
I'm a woman AND a better athlete!
Good for you. You can probably help them out in that case. In general, however, I don't think they can find enough women that can present a challenge to those on the squad and that's why they reach out to guys on campus.
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BisonAccountant44
I know a guy that used to practice against the Lynx, and Pat Summit had men practice against her teams as well. I thought it was standard.
It is standard at ndsu. Some of my friends practiced against the women in college.
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Gully
I doubt there are too many females on campus who aren't already on the team that would be competitive. They're trying to improve by playing against better athletes. Very common practice.
The women should’ve already had their tryouts for walkons to make the team. I think if a lady doesn’t make the team but is good enough, they’ll ask her to stick around for practices. They may be speculating that if someone was willing to be a practice player they would’ve tried out for the actual team itself? Men can’t try out, so hence the tweet.
That all being said, I believe there was a girl a decade back or so that didn’t go to tryouts for the team but tried out to be a practice player. The team ended up taking her on as a walk-on and she played on the team for a year.
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Received my season tickets today for men and women's basketball.
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BadlandsBison
I'm a woman AND a better athlete!
Not sure the point of this discussion.
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BadlandsBison
I'm a woman AND a better athlete!
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Gully
Good for you. You can probably help them out in that case. In general, however, I don't think they can find enough women that can present a challenge to those on the squad and that's why they reach out to guys on campus.
In my past ... an acquaintance and friend, a woman, asked me to play volleyball against her and a friend of hers. It was two men against two women. We men got our clock cleaned. They were really good. We men were not trying to prove anything, we were doing it for fun, neither of us had any volleyball experience other than in gym classes and pickup games here and there. The two women, however, had played for Nebraska's volleyball team. I was really impressed. Lots of talent, really good teamwork, left a very positive impression on me.
(I have no idea if they practiced against men at Nebraska. All I know is they were really good, and WAY better than I was).
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Buffalo.Rider
In my past ... an acquaintance and friend, a woman, asked me to play volleyball against her and a friend of hers. It was two men against two women. We men got our clock cleaned. They were really good. We men were not trying to prove anything, we were doing it for fun, neither of us had any volleyball experience other than in gym classes and pickup games here and there. The two women, however, had played for Nebraska's volleyball team. I was really impressed. Lots of talent, really good teamwork, left a very positive impression on me.
(I have no idea if they practiced against men at Nebraska. All I know is they were really good, and WAY better than I was).
That's cool. I don't really know anything about VB but you mentioned you hadn't played competitively, so I'm not sure if that's comparable or not.
When I was in college we played the women's basketball team (which was a very good women's team, BTW) out on the courts by Pavek hall. It wasn't close. They were much, much slower than a bunch of us non-athlete guys. That's not a criticism, it's just different. I went to the women's games as much as the men's games and cheered them on, they were great in the 90s and fun to watch. I'm just saying it's not even comparable and that's why women's teams often look for college guys to practice against, so they can face some good competition that will prepare them for games.
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Gully
That's cool. I don't really know anything about VB but you mentioned you hadn't played competitively, so I'm not sure if that's comparable or not.
When I was in college we played the women's basketball team (which was a very good women's team, BTW) out on the courts by Pavek hall. It wasn't close. They were much, much slower than a bunch of us non-athlete guys. That's not a criticism, it's just different. I went to the women's games as much as the men's games and cheered them on, they were great in the 90s and fun to watch. I'm just saying it's not even comparable and that's why women's teams often look for college guys to practice against, so they can face some good competition that will prepare them for games.
^ how gully recalls it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV84ha3uEGg
^how it really went down on the courts by pavek hall lmfao
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Slick! I haven't seen you for a couple of years. Remembering the chest bumping days in Sioux Falls at teh BB tourney!
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Gonna have to wait until NEXT year when Heaven is actually eligible to play point guard. Word has it, Vinnie has been ballin with her on the court and she's dam good baller
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El_Chapo
Gonna have to wait until NEXT year when Heaven is actually eligible to play point guard. Word has it, Vinnie has been ballin with her on the court and she's dam good baller
Is it sage to assume that the rest of the team will be playing and no one "red shirting". Heaven is out do to transfer correct?
There is some nice height on the team. Hope these ladies can turn the corner and improve. If a team is not contending for a conference title, one of the ways to measure success is, does the team improve throughout the season. If they are better at the end vs at the beginning is a good sign. They better be better than they have been, period.
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Mr Meaty
Is it sage to assume that the rest of the team will be playing and no one "red shirting". Heaven is out do to transfer correct?
There is some nice height on the team. Hope these ladies can turn the corner and improve. If a team is not contending for a conference title, one of the ways to measure success is, does the team improve throughout the season. If they are better at the end vs at the beginning is a good sign. They better be better than they have been, period.
I don't think being better than the last 8 years should be that big of a challenge. But then again, we've said that before with other teams.:hide:
So simply sit back and watch for now.
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Some pretty telling comments in this article on Bison Report.
"At first, it was kind of scary, because you had no idea what to expect,” said Nudell. “Then afterward, we were like, 'oh, this is probably how a real Division I practice should be run.' It was comforting in coming to the realization that this is how it's going to be."
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TAILG8R
Some pretty telling comments in this
article on Bison Report.
"At first, it was kind of scary, because you had no idea what to expect,” said Nudell. “Then afterward, we were like, 'oh, this is probably how a real Division I practice should be run.' It was comforting in coming to the realization that this is how it's going to be."
That sounds great that the players are all buying in to what the new staff wants to do. They sound committed to turning this around and now need to go compete to do it. This season is going to be exciting for the players, coaches and fans. Go Bison.
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TAILG8R
Some pretty telling comments in this
article on Bison Report.
"At first, it was kind of scary, because you had no idea what to expect,” said Nudell. “Then afterward, we were like, 'oh, this is probably how a real Division I practice should be run.' It was comforting in coming to the realization that this is how it's going to be."
I was coming here say the same thing. That is a pretty messed up comment and it really makes you hope things can finally turn around.
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TAILG8R
Some pretty telling comments in this
article on Bison Report.
"At first, it was kind of scary, because you had no idea what to expect,” said Nudell. “Then afterward, we were like, 'oh, this is probably how a real Division I practice should be run.' It was comforting in coming to the realization that this is how it's going to be."
Lmfao, good riddance whatever your name was whoused 2 coach the team (I'm drawing a blank)______good luck "Jordy"' dont 4get about Amy! She's always there 2 help u son!
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Well if you base an opinion on 1 game, it will be a long season, but I am sure he will improve the defense. I looked around, almost expecting to see Walseth sitting watching the team she is getting paid to not coach...
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imabison
Well if you base an opinion on 1 game, it will be a long season, but I am sure he will improve the defense. I looked around, almost expecting to see Walseth sitting watching the team she is getting paid to not coach...
Dude idk if you’ve been watching the last ten years but a 37 point win over ANYONE is a good step forward, especially with a new coaching staff. Last year we would’ve been lucky to win by double digits.
We beat Mayville State by 6 last year
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NDSU92
Dude idk if you’ve been watching the last ten years but a 37 point win over ANYONE is a good step forward, especially with a new coaching staff. Last year we would’ve been lucky to win by double digits.
We beat Mayville State by 6 last year
I was not at the game but followed it on the radio. It appeared in the second half we rebounded better. Shot over 55% for the game and after a 0-6 start on 3's at 43%. As mentioned out rebounded them by 14. Had 14 turnovers and that needs to better, but last year they probably averaged 20 a game. I see many bright spots after just one game and this is going to be a solid year for the program.
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that #5 freshman w 18 points looked sharp
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Second half showed focus and improvement in the two aspects that were troubling during the first half: fronting up and blocking out. Hence the tale of two halves. Positive development: moving well without the ball, resulting in easy buckets. Also, Cobbins is a ballplayer. Does not look like a freshman out there.
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El_Chapo
that #5 freshman w 18 points looked sharp
New faces it look for Cobbins and Scales to help this team with the returning players VanGool looked good as well.
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The coach is trying to change an entire decade + of a losing and incompetent basketball culture. I don't think you can read anything out of 1 game regardless of who it's played against and what the result is. I would expect the team to struggle all year and finish with a subpar record again, but the most important thing is how the team competes on a given night and its flow throughout the season. If it has better results in the 2nd half of conference play then that should be a good indication that the program is stepping in the right direction. Hope he can turn it around he seems to be doing things the right way.
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@ UNI
8-24 after 1st, 30-48 at half.
All the same problems we've talked about for years.
Too many turnovers, not enough defense, lack of talent, etc.
Thankfully it's only the first game. Lots of work to do in the future.
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I don’t think anyone has any misconceptions, this is a full multi-year rebuild.
For this year I would honestly just like to see the following:
-Out-hustle our opponents
-Better team defense
-More team awareness
There’s a lot of low hanging fruit we can improve upon before coaching, growth, recruiting all catch up
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Roster needs to be turned over. Need to turn the page, cut loose euro players who have no concept of defense. I'm sure this coach will rebuild this team the right way.
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This is a tough way to start. Since Brooke LeMar left we have not had a solid point guard to handle ball pressure.
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There are four freshmen on the roster. Walseth signed three of them in the early signing period last November: Nicole Scales, Emily Behnke, and Olivia Skibiel. Coach Collins was hired after the spring signing date and he brought in Ryan Cobbins. Cobbins is in the starting five and has made an impact already. Coach Collins also brought in two transfers: Heaven Hamling from Stephen F Austin and Marie Olson from SMU. They both have to sit out a year due to transfer rules and will be sophomores next season.
I don't see a huge turnaround in year one. Let's hope the coaching staff can improve the skills of the existing players enough to win some games.
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There are four freshmen on the roster. Walseth signed three of them in the early signing period last November: Nicole Scales, Emily Behnke, and Olivia Skibiel. Coach Collins was hired after the spring signing date and he brought in Ryan Cobbins. Cobbins is in the starting five and has made an impact already. Coach Collins also brought in two transfers: Heaven Hamling from Stephen F Austin and Marie Olson from SMU. They both have to sit out a year due to transfer rules and will be sophomores next season.
I don't see a huge turnaround in year one. Let's hope the coaching staff can improve the skills of the existing players enough to win some games.
Baby steps this year. I did not watch or listen to last nights game but I am planning on attending a few this year. Wish there were more double headers on Saturdays.
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roadwarrior
There are four freshmen on the roster. Walseth signed three of them in the early signing period last November: Nicole Scales, Emily Behnke, and Olivia Skibiel. Coach Collins was hired after the spring signing date and he brought in Ryan Cobbins. Cobbins is in the starting five and has made an impact already. Coach Collins also brought in two transfers: Heaven Hamling from Stephen F Austin and Marie Olson from SMU. They both have to sit out a year due to transfer rules and will be sophomores next season.
I don't see a huge turnaround in year one. Let's hope the coaching staff can improve the skills of the existing players enough to win some games.
The ESPN+ announcers near the end of game said they felt NDSU will win some games in the Summit.