Maybe it's time to consolidate and trim some fat?
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Maybe it's time to consolidate and trim some fat?
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I’d be curious to know what the sum total salary of all NDUS administrators and their staff is. Leave out the Tech schools. It would be good to compare this number with national averages
I’d also be curious to know what fraction of each school's enrollment is online, if anybody has this information.
The problem at NDSU is that much of the trimming was directed at faculty and programs, as opposed to the administrative bloat that has been rampant during the 'DB era'.
Oh, and btw, it’s pretty obvious that FCC still has a deep, deep anti-NDSU bias. Anyone who can't see that is a fool. But with actual leadership in place, NDSU is still very well positioned. I'd never live in GF and I'd never commute there from Fargo
My son toured/visted 10 schools.
Valpo/Drake/St. Thomas/ St. Johns 50-60k a year, 25 to 20k a year after scholarships, awards, school aid.
Concordia- 48k, 25k after aid. Same cost to slightly higher than St. Johns.
Augustana/Jamestown- 30k, 12k
NDSU, MSUM,- 20k, 9-11k after scholarships.
Nine schools and for the most part all of them did an excellent job with campus visits. Very much treated my son as a potential customer or client. In some cases, him enrolling at a particular school is a potential $200k customer or account.
Ulitmately he decided on NDSU. Was between NDSU and St. Johns. His rationale became ultimate cost. His question to me is an accounting degree from SJU worth more than NDSU. I said no, the only difference would be the network you may establish at SJU. He decided to save the 40k over 4 years and enrolled at NDSU.
At orientation last summer, every thing about the day for student and parents was the university wanting to help the student succeed. It was very evident that NDSU wants the student to be comfortable as well as the parents. They want them to have a good experience. It is very clear why. A happy student is an asset. They may have siblings, so if current student does well, the siblings may follow. Additionally, they have a future alumni.
At least with my experience the university has gone above and beyond to attach the student to the school.
good to know Kabl1one
nice Friday night newsdump.. I'm actually impressed by it. smart!! https://www.westfargopioneer.com/new...ons-of-dollars
college attendance is down nationwide over the last few years, it's not just an NDSU issue.
People are realizing you don't need to go to college to get a good job and make money, and add in the fact that young people can become entrepreneurs much easier now days with the internet and it's not surprising. To be honest, I learned nothing in college, and every single job i've ever had, not a single one of them asked me if I went to college. I work in the tech industry for a very large tech company in the area (not hard to guess which one) and even they did not ask about my college degree.
Unless your going to be in a very specific trade (IE doctor, lawyer, dentist) it's really not necessary to go to college.
I think tech colleges will actually become more popular in the next decade, as they teach a very specific trade for the most part, whereas a four year school mostly teaches general bullshit. Add in the fact that online colleges will increase in numbers...why spend 3x as much to go to an actual school when you can get the same info from an online college?
I think you forgot to include engineer/scientist, which requires AT LEAST a 4-year degree. I'd say these jobs are much much more numerous than what you list.
However, what you say is generally true.
Are you defending him? Because I'm starting to genuinely dislike the guy ...