Re: NCAA Tournament: #15NDSU vs #2 Gonzaga
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HerdBot
You serious Clark?
Not really
Re: NCAA Tournament: #15NDSU vs #2 Gonzaga
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Originally Posted by
westnodak93bison
Not really
Lol, just checking :)
Re: NCAA Tournament: #15NDSU vs #2 Gonzaga
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Originally Posted by
MNLonghorn10
Which begs the question...dexter' stock is never going to be higher. Should he declare for the NBA draft now?
:biggrin:....
Re: NCAA Tournament: #15NDSU vs #2 Gonzaga
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SoCalBison
Does Sagarin rate college hoops? Since we also beat the spread....
Yes. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaab/sagarin/
Re: NCAA Tournament: #15NDSU vs #2 Gonzaga
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Originally Posted by
Hammerhead
SDSU over 50 spots ahead of us? Makes sense. NDSU - 151 SDSU - 92
Re: NCAA Tournament: #15NDSU vs #2 Gonzaga
KenPom has SDSU 88 and NDSU 142
http://kenpom.com/
These are the things that happen when you play a 9 game single elimination tournament at the end of a 31 game regular season.
Re: NCAA Tournament: #15NDSU vs #2 Gonzaga
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#1BISONFAN ASHLEY
SDSU over 50 spots ahead of us? Makes sense. NDSU - 151 SDSU - 92
Without knowing more about Sagarin's models, I would say that it does make sense. Sagarin ratings are mostly score-based. Our offense was mainly about minimizing possessions. That kept our scores and our victory margins fairly low. That makes us look bad to the computer. Also, the massive blowouts to Texas and Iowa to start the year would likely be disproportionately significant due to the score-based method.
If you look at the Elo Score column(which is less dependent on score margins), the xDSUs are much closer. SDSU @ 108 and NDSU @ 125.
Re: NCAA Tournament: #15NDSU vs #2 Gonzaga
I was going to say our early season results hurt us much more in Sagarin than in RPI which doesn't care about the score. Every metric has its flaws, NDSU was a very different team at the end of the season.
Re: NCAA Tournament: #15NDSU vs #2 Gonzaga
SDSU beat a good Colorado State team...
Re: NCAA Tournament: #15NDSU vs #2 Gonzaga
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NDSUstudent
I was going to say our early season results hurt us much more in Sagarin than in RPI which doesn't care about the score. Every metric has its flaws, NDSU was a very different team at the end of the season.
Even based strictly on conference games and the conference tournament SDSU Sagarin's out as the superior team by 6.5 points.