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x a possible candidate for y job
Time to fire up the old rumor mill!
According to ESPN, a source told Brett McMurphy that Chris Klieman is one of the guys Minnesota will be looking at to be their next coach.
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Minnesota's initial preference to be Claeys' successor is Western Michigan coach P.J. Fleck, although a source close to Fleck told ESPN there has not been any contact between the school and the coach. Other candidates immediately expected to be considered for the opening include former LSU and Oklahoma State coach Les Miles and Boise State's Bryan Harsin, who was hired by Coyle when he worked there. Minnesota is also expected to target Penn State offensive coordinator Joe Moorhead and North Dakota State coach Chris Klieman, a source told ESPN's Brett McMurphy.
http://www.espn.com/college-football...h-tracy-claeys
That is a very heavyweight list there. Some may be above the Gophers job, but regardless, seeing Klieman on any list is enough to make NDSU fans squirm a bit.
This is the first time I have seen Klieman publicly linked to this (or any other) coaching job.
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It's good and bad. It's tough to lose a good coach and assistants but if a guy is going to land in such close proximity I'd take Klieman. He wouldn't do anything to spite NDSU. Hopefully we get another year with him at the helm but best wishes to him whatever comes of this
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The unnamed source was probably with another MVFC team so they could mess up recruiting J/K.
In all seriousness though.. It's a month before signing day and our coach is one of many listed as a candidate and the Gopher AD says "it's going to feel like it's taking forever." That's what sucks. This Gopher AD already was a dick making Claeys wait a week when he knew he was going to fire him
Odd that there is no mention of Bohl which makes me wonder if it's shoddy reporting on Bohl being a candidate or Klieman being a candidate. Gotta admit though... The Gophers paid 5 million to buy out their contracts. Bohl just got a huge contract with a 5 million dollar buy out so they are down 10 million before even offering. And Bohl got a huge raise so they would need to pony up the dough.
Klieman would be nuts to turn down the type of money Kill got. 600k to 2 million is huge. Would certainly be the less expensive option
I just hope they decide soon. Waiting screws everyone over including gophers recruits, Ndsu recruits, teams trying to put together coaching staff's, etc
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Having Bohl or Klieman in Minnesota would hurt our recruiting greatly. We can beat out Wyoming for recruits in a lot of cases but competing with the Goophs would be a challenge.
In recruiting, I mean. We beat them on the field easily.
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Also worth noting that I've seen a few other write up's where the "experts" think the Gophers AD will want an offensive coach.
Offensive as in football. Not on Twitter.
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Kevin
Having Bohl or Klieman in Minnesota would hurt our recruiting greatly. We can beat out Wyoming for recruits in a lot of cases but competing with the Goophs would be a challenge.
In recruiting, I mean. We beat them on the field easily.
I think the connection with the AD is a very big threat. This could be a program killer for NDSU.
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Their boosters will never support a "D2" coach. I'd be more worried about the G5 school they poach from instead.
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Originally Posted by
2011BisonAlumni
I think the connection with the AD is a very big threat. This could be a program killer for NDSU.
No it won't. This program will not die. Just stop already.
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2011BisonAlumni
This could be a program killer for NDSU.
I've heard a lot of dumb things on bisonville...But this one is close to the dumbest.
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Id be more concerned about collateral damage if they poach a G5 HC. Bohls buyout in Wyoming is a pretty big barrier there but Klieman would be a likely replacement there. They just canned Stanford and would they try to promote Vigen?
Would Western Michigan consider Klieman if Fleck leaves for Minnesota, which I think is their most likely hire? I really have no idea how likely that would be.
Les Miles with a pretty big fall from grace landing as the goophs HC is probably the least risk senerio for NDSU.
Another risk would be Klieman taking the DC job in a new staff at Minnesota, but that seems unlikely. Would he be interested in a non HC position at this point and what staff would he fit into. The Bohl bridge seems burnt.
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I don't see Klieman going there unless everyone else turns them down. He just doesn't have the experience yet.
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Bohl has a better shot than Klieman.
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BisonCardinal
Bohl has a better shot than Klieman.
Might be tough with his brand new $6.5M buyout. Not sure they would pony up that sort of cash, plus pay him enough to make him leave $1.4M per year in Laramie.
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BisonCardinal
Bohl has a better shot than Klieman.
Exactly what I'm thinking but either would be a good hire for MN and bad for us with recruiting. Bohl would be a perfect fit for MN. Knowing the Gophers they'll continue to be the Gophers and they'll hire someone who's style doesn't fit in the region like Chip Kelly
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EC8CH
Id be more concerned about collateral damage if they poach a G5 HC. Bohls buyout in Wyoming is a pretty big barrier there but Klieman would be a likely replacement there. They just canned Stanford and would they try to promote Vigen?
Would Western Michigan consider Klieman if Fleck leaves for Minnesota, which I think is their most likely hire? I really have no idea how likely that would be.
Les Miles with a pretty big fall from grace landing as the goophs HC is probably the least risk senerio for NDSU.
Another risk would be Klieman taking the DC job in a new staff at Minnesota, but that seems unlikely. Would he be interested in a non HC position at this point and what staff would he fit into. The Bohl bridge seems burnt.
not sure on Western Michigan. If Fleck doesn't leave this year, odds are Western Michigan goes back to reality and his stock drops. And Fleck currently only makes about 200k more than Kljeman and is the highest paid coach in the MAC. Unless they would pay him the money the boosters are apparently trying to raise to keep him... Not sure
The perception is that Bohl is more experienced and has built a so called FBS team up in 3 years after he built Ndsu up
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bisonmike2
Exactly what I'm thinking but either would be a good hire for MN and bad for us with recruiting. Bohl would be a perfect fit for MN. Knowing the Gophers they'll continue to be the Gophers and they'll hire someone who's style doesn't fit in the region like Chip Kelly
Imagine Les Miles standing on a cold sideline...
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Originally Posted by
EC8CH
Id be more concerned about collateral damage if they poach a G5 HC. Bohls buyout in Wyoming is a pretty big barrier there but Klieman would be a likely replacement there. They just canned Stanford and would they try to promote Vigen?
Would Western Michigan consider Klieman if Fleck leaves for Minnesota, which I think is their most likely hire? I really have no idea how likely that would be.
Les Miles with a pretty big fall from grace landing as the goophs HC is probably the least risk senerio for NDSU.
Another risk would be Klieman taking the DC job in a new staff at Minnesota, but that seems unlikely. Would he be interested in a non HC position at this point and what staff would he fit into. The Bohl bridge seems burnt.
This... I think Klieman's opportunity would come from a domino effect. Him backfilling a job opened by whomever gets the Minnesota job.
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gumby013
Imagine Les Miles standing on a cold sideline...
I don't know why anyone would want Miles. He underperformed with massive talent and doesn't know what a D1 QB looks like
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gumby013
Imagine Les Miles standing on a cold sideline...
They need to hire a Tim Brewster type guy again (that would help us). Let's be honest MN is going to a recruit if they are going heads up against NDSU. The bright lights of the Big 10 would be hard to pass up, can't say I blame a kid for that. Where NDSU has benefitted the last 5 years is getting the guy that MN overlooks Williams, Turner, Olson just to name a few.
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wagsabison
They need to hire a Tim Brewster type guy again (that would help us). Let's be honest MN is going to a recruit if they are going heads up against NDSU. The bright lights of the Big 10 would be hard to pass up, can't say I blame a kid for that. Where NDSU has benefitted the last 5 years is getting the guy that MN overlooks Williams, Turner, Olson just to name a few.
Claeys was our best hope for a Brewster 2.0. Hopefully I'm wrong and the goophers can find someone worse. Need someone who is likely to overlook local talent and chase stars outside the region.
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bisonmike2
Exactly what I'm thinking but either would be a good hire for MN and bad for us with recruiting. Bohl would be a perfect fit for MN. Knowing the Gophers they'll continue to be the Gophers and they'll hire someone who's style doesn't fit in the region like Chip Kelly
I'll laugh when it's Schiano or Al Golden
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ZHerd
I don't know why anyone would want Miles. He underperformed with massive talent and doesn't know what a D1 QB looks like
He sounds perfect for the gophers job! Can you name me a QB at the Gophers that looked like D1 talent? Last gophers QBs in the nfl... http://www.twincities.com/2016/08/29...-start-in-nfl/
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I don't buy Coach K for the Gophers job. Reality is, his head coaching experience is thin (only 3 years in D1, and 1 many moons ago in extreme small college ball), and most of the top players we've had to this point we not brought on when he was top dog. Even Stick and RJ were largegely recruited by Bohl b4 the change. While I think Coach K will be very successful, I would be very leery of a Gopher booster in bringing on someone with such thin experience. (See Tim Brewster, yes, I think Coach K would be 10,000x better; but this is how a Gopher could see it.)
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Loud and Proud Bison fan
What do you mean? Leidner is a first-round prospect. According to some people last year. People who were desperate to find the next Wentz and evidently never watched him play.
But in all seriousness, he does at least look like an NFL QB. More so than the highly touted Philip "Kick 'Em When They're Down" Nelson ever did. You never know, he still could be the next Tim Tebow.
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gumby013
Imagine Les Miles standing on a cold sideline...
You know he is from the Midwest right??
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ByeSonBusiness
You know he is from the Midwest right??
Yeah, but he's been in the south for a long long time munching on grass.
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gumby013
Yeah, but he's been in the south for a long long time munching on grass.
I can attest to this. I'm not even that far south and 12 degrees seemed really cold to me this morning.
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Bison 4 Life
I can attest to this. I'm not even that far south and 12 degrees seemed really cold to me this morning.
-14 this am in Fargo. Suck it up buttercup.
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gumby013
Yeah, but he's been in the south for a long long time munching on grass.
Good point, the turf at TCF is probably a dealbreaker.
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THEsocalledfan
I don't buy Coach K for the Gophers job. Reality is, his head coaching experience is thin (only 3 years in D1, and 1 many moons ago in extreme small college ball), and most of the top players we've had to this point we not brought on when he was top dog. Even Stick and RJ were largegely recruited by Bohl b4 the change. While I think Coach K will be very successful, I would be very leery of a Gopher booster in bringing on someone with such thin experience. (See Tim Brewster, yes, I think Coach K would be 10,000x better; but this is how a Gopher could see it.)
Instead of typing my thoughts I will just copy and past TSCF"s as that sums it up.
On a side note I think Minnesota will "Row the Boat".
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bisonp
Good point, the turf at TCF is probably a dealbreaker.
YOU Dang right it is...The Turf's rightful spot is at 12th and University
:)
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Les Miles or Schiano would be best scenario for NDSU & GOphers.
if gophers ever could become a TOP 20 team consistently, the more Minnesota kids that will get overlooked and end up at NDSU!!
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Bisonator98
No it won't. This program will not die. Just stop already.
Name the time a former Bison coach took a job that could cut off our recruiting pipeline to Minnesota?
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2011BisonAlumni
I think the connection with the AD is a very big threat. This could be a program killer for NDSU.
Absolutely not, if NDSU football were to slump it would take years and be a slow move back to being a "normal" football team (I say normal because winning 5 straight is just NOT normal).
Interesting to hear Klieman is in the mix, not that it is super surprising. I was more surprised to not see Bohl's name on the list (though as other's mentioned, there is a pricetag with that). I though the Goofs should have looked at Bohl the last time around. The guys has done a nice job in Wyoming, and he would have way more resources and recognition at the U. He also knows the recruiting area. The biggest downside to going to the U, you have a lot of administrative folks, alumni, etc. that want to tell you how to run the program, rather than trusting whomever they hire. At least that is the perception I've gotten over the years, and through all of the crazy problems the U has faced.
Sounds like the W. Michigan coach could be the guy, but the AD also has strong ties to the Boise coach. I think Bohl should absolutely be looked at, but I'm not sure I see the U picking him. Should have taken him the last time around and they might finally have some consistency in the program. UND,NDSU,MN,Etc. fans can all say what they want, but Bohl teaches kids how to have a winning mentality. Thats a good trait to have in a coach.
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siouxfan512
teaches kids how to have a winning mentality. Thats a good trait to have in a coach.
And IMO the most important thing Minn and its fans are lacking and preventing them from getting any better. (Again...speaking from experience as a former season ticket holder)
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siouxfan512
Absolutely not, if NDSU football were to slump it would take years and be a slow move back to being a "normal" football team (I say normal because winning 5 straight is just NOT normal).
Interesting to hear Klieman is in the mix, not that it is super surprising. I was more surprised to not see Bohl's name on the list (though as other's mentioned, there is a pricetag with that). I though the Goofs should have looked at Bohl the last time around. The guys has done a nice job in Wyoming, and he would have way more resources and recognition at the U. He also knows the recruiting area. The biggest downside to going to the U, you have a lot of administrative folks, alumni, etc. that want to tell you how to run the program, rather than trusting whomever they hire. At least that is the perception I've gotten over the years, and through all of the crazy problems the U has faced.
Sounds like the W. Michigan coach could be the guy, but the AD also has strong ties to the Boise coach. I think Bohl should absolutely be looked at, but I'm not sure I see the U picking him. Should have taken him the last time around and they might finally have some consistency in the program. UND,NDSU,MN,Etc. fans can all say what they want, but Bohl teaches kids how to have a winning mentality. Thats a good trait to have in a coach.
$6.5 M buyout would be nothing to the boosters if they thought Bohl was the guy.
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Pretty sure Bison players would never treat Kleiman or their teammates the way the Gophs treated their coach and teammates. Held a sex party and included a recruit. Got suspended but corroborated story so reinstated. University snooped around and resuspended. Team boycotted and essentially supported the sex party. Coach tweeted player support. Details leaked and both team and coach looked bad. Now the players that boycotted are mad their coach got fired when they basically put his neck on the chopping block.
The best thing for NDSU and any former coach or player is to not be mentioned in the same sentence as the Gophs.
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2011BisonAlumni
Name the time a former Bison coach took a job that could cut off our recruiting pipeline to Minnesota?
Let me think long and hard about this one... never? Just geography alone is good.
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BisonTeacher
And IMO the most important thing Minn and its fans are lacking and preventing them from getting any better. (Again...speaking from experience as a former season ticket holder)
Agreed.
Off the field issues need to be handled right too. Maybe get someone in there to teach these kids when they should and shouldn't exercise their right to freedom of speech. Standing up for your teammates is great and all, but maybe you don't take such a vocal stance when the issue is sexual assault. Some of the players forget that just because there are no charges criminally, the University still has a code of conduct, and the right to punish students how they see fit.
Also think some of these kids forget they are not entitled to a position on the team, a scholarship, etc. They have been given a unique opportunity to play for a big school in a big conference, with free education. Typical with some of these younger kids; they truly believe they are entitled to these opportunities. It'll be interesting to see if any of them are actually willing to give up their spot on the team and their scholarships to leave, because they disagree with the Claeys firing. Seems pretty funny to see players say they don't want to play for an administration that doesn't support its coach; while completely ignoring that they were playing for a coach that couldn't support the decisions of the organization.
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Son of a Bison
Pretty sure Bison players would never treat Kleiman or their teammates the way the Gophs treated their coach and teammates. Held a sex party and included a recruit. Got suspended but corroborated story so reinstated. University snooped around and resuspended. Team boycotted and essentially supported the sex party. Coach tweeted player support. Details leaked and both team and coach looked bad. Now the players that boycotted are mad their coach got fired when they basically put his neck on the chopping block.
The best thing for NDSU and any former coach or player is to not be mentioned in the same sentence as the Gophs.
Yep, the reaction of the players through all of this tells you there are some pretty deep problems with the culture there that need to be fixed. But that's also the main thing, perhaps the only thing, that would make Klieman a viable candidate.