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19 th Ave construction
No big surprise, 19th is considered 6 weeks behind schedule, now due to finished the end of October.
It does not surprise me, as they were never working on both ends of the project at the same time.
Other projects are also behind, some are already protected to have small parts finished next year.
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cue unbison in 1...2..3.... 5:30am when he gets up
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the only way to get to the dome is by air.
chapo, got any room on your copter?
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They've been working on this thing all fucking summer. These guys suck the big one.
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WHAT'S the big deal. Don't you like drnking after victories
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ive dealt with this all summer such a pain
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http://www.inforum.com/content/some-...ehind-schedule
Some local road construction projects behind schedule
And to no ones surprise they used Century Link as the reason that 12th ave was so far behind, now blaming Cable TV
for the delays.
Supposed to be done last Friday.
Master Construction has asked the city to forgive a total of 31.5 days, meaning there would be no penalties for missing the deadline....said.
Give them hell Piepkorn..
My neighbor said last week they had cement trucks backed up on the corner, the reason, they had one get stuck in the mud where they were pouring.
Solution was they backed up trucks dumped their loads and returned as the concrete time expired and can't be used.
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Short them about $200,000 master blaster is no good.
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Think Ill ask a question again. Last Saturday we came off I-94 from the west and took the University exit and University to the dome. Its been a long time, but couldnt a person take I-29 to the first exit after 19th, and then over past Fargo Jet Center and back to the dome from the North ? Just wondering in someones opinion (looking at you Imabison) which way would maybe be a better choice ? time/traffic etc
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Bisonfan1
Think Ill ask a question again. Last Saturday we came off I-94 from the west and took the University exit and University to the dome. Its been a long time, but couldnt a person take I-29 to the first exit after 19th, and then over past Fargo Jet Center and back to the dome from the North ? Just wondering in someones opinion (looking at you Imabison) which way would maybe be a better choice ? time/traffic etc
We just take 29 to 12 th ave and go thru any road through campus. Drove the bus right on through to tailgate lot on Sat with no problem. This would be if you want to park near the dome south side or their lot. I never park north of 19th after watching them tow numerous cars from those lots.
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Bisonfan1
Think Ill ask a question again. Last Saturday we came off I-94 from the west and took the University exit and University to the dome. Its been a long time, but couldnt a person take I-29 to the first exit after 19th, and then over past Fargo Jet Center and back to the dome from the North ? Just wondering in someones opinion (looking at you Imabison) which way would maybe be a better choice ? time/traffic etc
the answer is yes, you would come south on University and then have options.
1. Park in the CVS lot and walked south on Univ or Albrecht.
2. Drive past 19th Ave and enter the Fargodome from the front.
a. then on exit you would have 2 options
1. exit to University and depending on which route you chose would determine if you were in the right or left lane to exit.
a. If going to 17th you want the left lane exiting from the dome go to 17th and east to 10th street and north back to 19th and over to university
and back north to I 29
b. If you go south to 12th ave you want to be in the right last from the dome to university and south to 12th etc.
The guy that sits next to me comes in and takes that route, he parks in the CVS lot and says it pretty easy to get
back on University and go north. He walked to Albrecht because he tailgates.
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Peipkorn on KFGO now and ripping Masters. Says they will not get another bid in the city without major additions and contractual obligations for them. 3 block project in 6 months and they couldn't get it done. good stuff right now on KFGO
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Haha..That can't be good for business. It is pathetic though.
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Bison"FANatic"
Peipkorn on KFGO now and ripping Masters. Says they will not get another bid in the city without major additions and contractual obligations for them. 3 block project in 6 months and they couldn't get it done. good stuff right now on KFGO
Didn't they screw the pooch on 12th ave a few years back?
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gotts
Didn't they screw the pooch on 12th ave a few years back?
Yes I do believe they did. They pissed off Dave on this one he is now on right now with Chris Gabrial on 970AM talking about the same thing. I bet they are on time from here on out and not full of excuses.
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Bison"FANatic"
Yes I do believe they did. They pissed off Dave on this one he is now on right now with Chris Gabrial on 970AM talking about the same thing. I bet they are on time from here on out and not full of excuses.
This has all happened and went on for years this won't change
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unbison
This has all happened and went on for years this won't change
He flat out said their contracts will change in the future. So they may not change but it will cost them. Dave isn't letting this one slide and he is like a dog on a bone when he wants to be.
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Change how? Most road projects have liquidated damages already, suppose they can increase them (before the bid takes place can't change it after because you don't like the contractor...) but then you run the risk of contractors not bidding because they don't want that much risk at losing that much money. City can't do much if they have the lowest responsible bid these are public projects so nearly impossible to eliminate anyone from bidding. Obviously if they keep getting LDs it would put them out of business eventually.
Sent from Win8 phone on a bullet train from Hillsboro.
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1998braves64
Change how? Most road projects have liquidated damages already, suppose they can increase them (before the bid takes place can't change it after because you don't like the contractor...) but then you run the risk of contractors not bidding because they don't want that much risk at losing that much money. City can't do much if they have the lowest responsible bid these are public projects so nearly impossible to eliminate anyone from bidding. Obviously if they keep getting LDs it would put them out of business eventually.
Sent from Win8 phone on a bullet train from Hillsboro.
Yeah, seems like a lot of puffery from atop a soapbox. That or exposing the city to a hefty lawsuit.
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The job is behind they are my direct competition ..... That said it looks like it will get wrapped up this year.... The job was bid in Jan or Feb.... Frost wasn't completely out till June.... Gravel has been a real bear to get this year.... The job is being done with Houston engineering.....not saying anything bad about Houston but anyone that has worked with a consultant engineer knows that changes take more time and when reconstructing a road there is gonna be changes.... All this said every other contractor working in town has had to deal with all the same issues to meet their deadlines....so They will pay liquidated damages time to move on.....I don't think going on the radio and yelling about it is the proper way to go about changing what is going on....
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unbison
The job is behind they are my direct competition ..... That said it looks like it will get wrapped up this year.... The job was bid in Jan or Feb.... Frost wasn't completely out till June.... Gravel has been a real bear to get this year.... The job is being done with Houston engineering.....not saying anything bad about Houston but anyone that has worked with a consultant engineer knows that changes take more time and when reconstructing a road there is gonna be changes.... All this said every other contractor working in town has had to deal with all the same issues to meet their deadlines....so They will pay liquidated damages time to move on.....I don't think going on the radio and yelling about it is the proper way to go about changing what is going on....
Can't argue with you because you are in the industry, however they were the ones who blamed century link on 12th and now Cable TV on 19th.
Also they had toke last median section between 10 th and university ready to pour Friday and its not done. Today they are pouring water on the university and Albrecht which also appeared ready to pour Friday or Saturday, yet no work done. Wonder how long it will take to finish removing the lane on 10th that is going away. Only 1left hand turn lane onto 19th from now on.
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imabison
Can't argue with you because you are in the industry, however they were the ones who blamed century link on 12th and now Cable TV on 19th.
Also they had toke last median section between 10 th and university ready to pour Friday and its not done. Today they are pouring water on the university and Albrecht which also appeared ready to pour Friday or Saturday, yet no work done. Wonder how long it will take to finish removing the lane on 10th that is going away. Only 1left hand turn lane onto 19th from now on.
I have not said it could or shouldn't be done on time .... Just don't find the radio rant as a good way to communicate your dissatisfaction unless you want votes from the north enders because the rant on the radio changed nothing
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UN, are you aware of anyone actually paying the LD's? I know the contractor has already asked for a waiver on the 19th ave project.
As for Mike Williams on the radio, there is more work than there are road contractors, so if you are the low bidder and are bonded, you will get the project. They don't care what your track record is.
You get the eaglewood project in West Fargo? If so, good.
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it was piepkorn not mike Williams, he was too busy at the pro-climate rally.
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El_Chapo
it was piepkorn not mike Williams, he was too busy at the pro-climate rally.
Well they complain in the same circles. Either way, low bid, bonding, you pave in Fargo.
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kab1one
UN, are you aware of anyone actually paying the LD's? I know the contractor has already asked for a waiver on the 19th ave project.
As for Mike Williams on the radio, there is more work than there are road contractors, so if you are the low bidder and are bonded, you will get the project. They don't care what your track record is.
You get the eaglewood project in West Fargo? If so, good.
As far as LDs yes i know in west fargo they are enforced strictly these days.... im gonna assume that they will be enforced on that project .... i know they got a extension... but do not think it was enough for them to make it
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Problem with LD'S often times they are not steep enough to warrant some to pay overtime..... some are 500 dollars a day you dont have to be a engineer to figure out overtime costs more then that
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unbison
As far as LDs yes i know in west fargo they are enforced strictly these days.... im gonna assume that they will be enforced on that project .... i know they got a extension... but do not think it was enough for them to make it
Did they ever pay any on the 12th ave debacle? I didn't think they did. As for 19th, they are already starting the waiver process.
Funny Moore enforcing LD's in West Fargo, that is good to know.
You guys doing Eaglewood? that was another one your "competitier" got three years ago, we missed a sales season on that one......
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kab1one
Did they ever pay any on the 12th ave debacle? I didn't think they did. As for 19th, they are already starting the waiver process.
Funny Moore enforcing LD's in West Fargo, that is good to know.
You guys doing Eaglewood? that was another one your "competitier" got three years ago, we missed a sales season on that one......
We did get the eaglwood 3rd addition
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It appears that the 19th Ave from 10 th to University appears and I say that lightly to be to the point that it could be mostly open by
Friday or sooner. This does not include the 1 lane on the west side of 10th st that is going to be closed. Who knows how long that
will take. It looked like they might be pouring on the University to Albrecht side, but there was a truck beside me so all I saw was the
truck and big concrete machine.
We are getting very very sick of this project.....
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Any idea who did the 1st Ave N bridge this summer? The EB lanes went fast, a week or three, seemed smooth. The WB lanes took like 6 weeks I bet...looked like they poured concrete at least twice and had to hammer it up once. Looked like they were done for about two weeks but the trucks stayed there, that was super annoying.
Also, there is a lift station in Moorhead by my house that they have dug up and filled in a minimum of three times. My street has been closed for the better part of a month already for something that isn't even on the street...
I hate construction season.
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imabison
It appears that the 19th Ave from 10 th to University appears and I say that lightly to be to the point that it could be mostly open by
Friday or sooner. This does not include the 1 lane on the west side of 10th st that is going to be closed. Who knows how long that
will take. It looked like they might be pouring on the University to Albrecht side, but there was a truck beside me so all I saw was the
truck and big concrete machine.
We are getting very very sick of this project.....
They poured one lane yesterday all the way. Yaaaaaaaa Hopefully can get to the rest. Getting out of the lot on Saturday was the worst I have ever dealt with after any event I have been to in the dome.
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Bison"FANatic"
They poured one lane yesterday all the way. Yaaaaaaaa Hopefully can get to the rest. Getting out of the lot on Saturday was the worst I have ever dealt with after any event I have been to in the dome.
I agree, I was in it, the Incarnate Word game was not a good example for me, I am back to either walking, or parking in the CVS lot, it has to be better.
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imabison
I agree, I was in it, the Incarnate Word game was not a good example for me, I am back to either walking, or parking in the CVS lot, it has to be better.
It was just starting to rain otherwise I would have done the same thing but didn't want to make my wife walk in the rain.
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imabison
It appears that the 19th Ave from 10 th to University appears and I say that lightly to be to the point that it could be mostly open by
Friday or sooner. This does not include the 1 lane on the west side of 10th st that is going to be closed. Who knows how long that
will take. It looked like they might be pouring on the University to Albrecht side, but there was a truck beside me so all I saw was the
truck and big concrete machine.
We are getting very very sick of this project.....
Wow, it appears that Master got a swift kick, they got alot of the lane removed from left lane of 10th, poured alot of university to Albrecht.
1 lane both ways on 19th 10th to university ,but the question is are they replacing all of the interaction at university??
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Pretty disappointed they did not work on Sat.
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imabison
Pretty disappointed they did not work on Sat.
They worked hard all year.....needed a break on a nice fall day
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imabison
Pretty disappointed they did not work on Sat.
And give up a day at the lakes? They are hoping for more rain so they can ask for another delay OK from the city.
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tjbison
They worked hard all year.....needed a break on a nice fall day
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They work Saturdays news to me