Re: Klieman a possible candidate for Gophers job
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Originally Posted by
2011BisonAlumni
I don't think you have an understanding on how recruiting typically works, which is how it worked under Bohl. The head coach is the CEO. He provides direction on where to recruit and what type of player to recruit. Beyond that, they are a PR guy. Head coaches are "successful" at recruiting because they have good vision on where to recruit, what type of players to target and, most importantly, who they have as assistants to target the recruit.
Bohl, as most coaches, assigned his assistants to regions. The assistants scouted the film and contacted the player. In the case of Klieman, as an assistant he had Iowa/Missouri and Nebraska. It was Klieman, not Bohl, who recruited Stick. Sure Bohl met him and talked to him, but it was the Klieman who developed the relationship and got Easton to come to NDSU. As an actual recruiter, Klieman was awesome. He brought in many talented players to NDSU.
Now that Klieman is a head coach, he has the responsibility of being the figure head in determining where to recruit, the type of players to target and which coaches to assign to different regions. He, for the most part, is doing it exactly like Bohl.
Bohl's success as a recruiter was largely based on his ability to target Minnesota kids when Brewster had directed his staff to focus on areas in the south. If Bohl were such a great recruiter, he would be crushing NDSU on head to head recruits. He isn't.
Klieman has a lot of obstacles in front of him that Bohl didn't. When NDSU offers a kid now, you have a lot of schools offering the player. Schools are perceiving an NDSU offer to mean they probably should get an FBS offer. That wasnr happening before. Minnesota has stepped up their game and haven't ignored home grown talent. It will continue to get worse for us with PJ as coach. Other FCS schools have stepped up their game. In the past, NDSU was by far and away the most impressive FCS school to recruit the upper Midwest. Now you have schools like SDSU (new stadium, new indoor practice facility), UND (new practice facilities) which can match NDSU. Bohl had his own personal playground in Minnesota. He had the ability to grab almost anyone outside of the elite of the elite. Things are tougher now. That doesn't mean Klieman is worse than Bohl if he doesn't manage to bring in the same talent. IMO those days are over.
Actually... I think Steve Stanard recruited Stick and Nick DeLuca... Riley took over for Stanard. This issn't a reply to your post but it ties in with the above posts.
Re: Klieman a possible candidate for Gophers job
Fleck just on barreiro. Called his new signees now-fers. Can't call them gophers yet...Have to earn that right. Also said he is not as involved in offense and defense as he is recruiting. The more I hear from this guy the more I think the gophers will continue to get their chili hot.
Re: Klieman a possible candidate for Gophers job
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Originally Posted by
BisonTeacher
Fleck just on barreiro. Called his new signees now-fers. Can't call them gophers yet...Have to earn that right. Also said he is not as involved in offense and defense as he is recruiting. The more I hear from this guy the more I think the gophers will continue to get their chili hot.
What a douche bag.
Re: Klieman a possible candidate for Gophers job
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Originally Posted by
BisonTeacher
Fleck just on barreiro. Called his new signees now-fers. Can't call them gophers yet...Have to earn that right. Also said he is not as involved in offense and defense as he is recruiting. The more I hear from this guy the more I think the gophers will continue to get their chili hot.
Sounds like something Brewster would say. Glad to see the goofs will continue to wallow in mediocrity.
Re: Klieman a possible candidate for Gophers job
I cannot believe PJ Fleck had recruited Western Michigan to the 15th rated class in the country and they all honored it. Talk about it building up a program. I hope he kills it at Minnesota.
Re: Klieman a possible candidate for Gophers job
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silkamilkamonico
I cannot believe PJ Fleck had recruited Western Michigan to the 15th rated class in the country and they all honored it. Talk about it building up a program. I hope he kills it at Minnesota.
Lol you're not buying all that star hype are you? Come on man.
Re: Klieman a possible candidate for Gophers job
He lost me when he yanked a scholarship from a kid that had accepted an offer from Minnesota.
Re: Klieman a possible candidate for Gophers job
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Originally Posted by
Bisonator98
Lol you're not buying all that star hype are you? Come on man.
Yes. People get paid to analyze recruiting. Otherwise OI have to call bullshit on everyone here that keeps telling me NDSU has a really good class.
Re: Klieman a possible candidate for Gophers job
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Originally Posted by
silkamilkamonico
Yes. People get paid to analyze recruiting. Otherwise OI have to call bullshit on everyone here that keeps telling me NDSU has a really good class.
How don't you think NDSU had a good class?
Re: Klieman a possible candidate for Gophers job
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Originally Posted by
BisonVet
He lost me when he yanked a scholarship from a kid that had accepted an offer from Minnesota.
I dont get the big deal about this