Iowa State Dual - 9 Jan 19

Iowa State comes to town for a top 25 B12 match up tomorrow night. We'll be underdogs, but there should be some very good matches. My predictions:
125- Fleetwood dec Mackall 3-0 NDSU
133- Gomez dec Sykora 3-3, Match I'm most looking forward to.
141- Parker maj Nein 7-3 ISU
149- Degen dec Van Maanen 10-3 ISU
157- Knutson/Weber dec Straw 10-6 ISU
165- Fogarty dec Schumacher 10-9 ISU
174- Coleman dec De La Riva 13-9 ISU
184- Colbray dec Otomo 16-9 ISU
197- Miklus dec Eaton 19-9 ISU
HWT- Metz dec Gremmel 19-12 ISU

Gomez, Parker, Degen, Coleman, Colbray, and Miklus are all ranked and Mackall is right on the cusp. This is a substantially improved ISU squad.

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Iowa State comes to town for a top 25 B12 match up tomorrow night. We'll be underdogs, but there should be some very good matches. My predictions:
125- Fleetwood dec Mackall 3-0 NDSU
133- Gomez dec Sykora 3-3, Match I'm most looking forward to.
141- Parker maj Nein 7-3 ISU
149- Degen dec Van Maanen 10-3 ISU
157- Knutson/Weber dec Straw 10-6 ISU
165- Fogarty dec Schumacher 10-9 ISU
174- Coleman dec De La Riva 13-9 ISU
184- Colbray dec Otomo 16-9 ISU
197- Miklus dec Eaton 19-9 ISU
HWT- Metz dec Gremmel 19-12 ISU

Gomez, Parker, Degen, Coleman, Colbray, and Miklus are all ranked and Mackall is right on the cusp. This is a substantially improved ISU squad.

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Would be nice to see Metz finally beat Gremmel.


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Here's the comparison: https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/.../35/iowa-state

Are there any known starters out according to what WrestleStat shows?

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Here's the comparison: https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/.../35/iowa-state

Are there any known starters out according to what WrestleStat shows?

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Sutton at 141 for NDSU.

Schumacher is the ISU starter at 165.

Iowa State is greatly improved. Lost this season to Iowa 19-18 (last year was 35-6).

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Would be nice to see Metz finally beat Gremmel.

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Do you think we could see Big Dan tonight? He already beat Gremmel once this year.

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Originally Posted by RadioBison

Do you think we could see Big Dan tonight? He already beat Gremmel once this year.

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Hard to tell from being afar from the program. I know Metz is much better than what I saw from at the USAFA dual. I think he just needs more confidence and learn how to be more mean and aggressive. I would like to see him spend more time at the USOTC during the offseason to develop those skills.

So close for Cam. That would have been a big win.

I'll offer full thoughts tomorrow, but Cam had that match...

I understand why they did it, but I would've picked top in the third. Cam utterly dominated the second and Gomez wasn't close to getting away. Only concern is the two cautions.

Had Cam got away in the last 45 seconds, he wins.

Had Cam bailed when he should have in the first, he probably wins.

That is too many missed opportunities against a top 10 opponent, but he was right there.

Iowa State is just a way better team than us.

125- Fleetwood was flat, but he still found a way to win. I think he could've scored a couple takedowns with a little higher pace.
133- Cam wrestled well and had several chances to win this one. Like I said, I would've picked top in the third, but he still had a chance.
141- Degen was fired up, but couldn't get to his offense. We saw how many different ways his brother could score, and hopefully he can approach that level. Needs to develop a go-to takedown and stay tighter on top.
149- Degen was just a lot better than JVM. He needs to shoot a lot more. Guys get to his legs far too easily and one way to prevent that would be to become more offensive.
157- Really flat performance by Knutson. His shot defense was unusually poor and he couldn't generate any offense. I expect we'll see more Weber than Knutson going forward.
165- Fogarty looked alright. The misdirection single gave him problems early, but he was able to adjust to it and snuff it out. He continues to look really strong on top.
174- De La Riva had a chance in this one, but couldn't create offense. Coleman did a very good job of finishing his shots quickly and correctly so De La Riva couldn't scramble.
184- Colbray is very athletic and just much better. Colbray looks a lot more effective at 184. Colbray made his debut at the SHAC at HWT two years ago and his return trip went much better for him.
197- Miklus is an AA and looked the part.
HWT- Good job on the first takedown, on the throw in the 2nd period, and with some shot defense. Still did a very poor job of mat wrestling and seems far too hesitant to pull the trigger on offense. Needs to just show more effort when on top.

Overall, it was a better performance than the West Virgina dual, and against a better team, but the score was far worse. Hopefully we see a more competitive performance vs Pitt on Saturday.

We do not match up well with Pitt either, but I hope they can pull something off!


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We do not match up well with Pitt either, but I hope they can pull something off!


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Yeah, Pitt got a lot better since last year. If all their starters go, I think we'll be lucky to win 3 matches. But, you never know what's going to happen in a dual meet.

125, 149, 165, 174, and 197 could get us to five wins. Depending on which JVM shows up at 149, I think we're a coin flip at worse in each of those five. Would probably need Cam to close a large gap vs Phillippi to win the dual though.

Looks like Weber at 157 and Bianchi at 125 today

Disregard, Fleetwood is wrestling

Luke Weber just knocked off #10 Taleb Rahmani. Great win and it gives the team a realistic chnace to win the dual.

We likely need wins at 165, 174, and 197 to win.

De la Riva lost a really sloppy match. Now likely need Metz and Eaton to win. IMO, not a good matchup for Metz

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De la Riva lost a really sloppy match. Now likely need Metz and Eaton to win. IMO, not a good matchup for Metz

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Might be Stibral wrestling next

Eaton is down and hurt his knee. Stout, his opponent, told his coaches "i heard something pop".

He's going to keep wrestling though

How did this match/dual turn out?


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Iowa State thumped us badly.

The Pitt dual today was competitive, but they won almost all of the close matches and the dual.

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Originally Posted by Big Bird

Iowa State thumped us badly.

The Pitt dual today was competitive, but they won almost all of the close matches and the dual.

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Thanks. Saw the ISU outcome and was curious about Pitt. Having decent year tho, no?


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Yeah, they've beaten two B10 teams and only lost dual they shouldn't have (West Virginia).

Fleetwood has a good chance to become an All American. Sykora is right there with top 10 guys, but can't quite beat them yet, and should contend to AA. Fogarty and Weber have shown considerable talent, albeit in very few chances for Weber. Eaton has looked like an NCAA qualifier most of the year too. De La Riva and Metz have a punchers chance of going to NCAAs too.

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Yeah, they've beaten two B10 teams and only lost dual they shouldn't have (West Virginia).

Fleetwood has a good chance to become an All American. Sykora is right there with top 10 guys, but can't quite beat them yet, and should contend to AA. Fogarty and Weber have shown considerable talent, albeit in very few chances for Weber. Eaton has looked like an NCAA qualifier most of the year too. De La Riva and Metz have a punchers chance of going to NCAAs too.

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Why did I have higher expectations for Metz? Good on his feet (Greco) but not solid elsewhere? Not dissing on the kid, just curious where he needs to improve?


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Why did I have higher expectations for Metz? Good on his feet (Greco) but not solid elsewhere? Not dissing on the kid, just curious where he needs to improve?


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He needs to improve on the mat. There have been numerous times where he has ridden guys for under 15 seconds and it appears like he doesn't want to try to ride or turn. He's been ridden by some guys too, but has seemed to improve on bottom some.

On his feet, he has shown flashes in regards to shooting, throwing, ties, and defense, but he hasn't quite figured out when to pull the trigger with what. That is something that should improve with more matches against elite competition.

Luke Weber looks like a good transfer in a position of need this year. Next year Franek will be wrestling and so I don't know what will happen. At the Daktronics I watched Webber beat soundly 2 Minnesota backups and then lose to their starter in the finals by 1 point.

Does anybody know how Sammy Colbray was able to count 2016-17 as a redshirt year? I thought they had to pull it when he came out and wrestled Tynan at 285 in our dual meet, and I always thought that it was a bizarre decision, because it was his only dual of the season.

I think they're banking on a medical redshirt. I don't think it is/can be counted yet, but will likely be granted

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I think they're banking on a medical redshirt. I don't think it is/can be counted yet, but will likely be granted

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I don't know how those rules work, but wrestlestat shows he had quite a few matches that season in open tournaments. It looks like he had 10 more matches, after I filter out the duplicates. But, it does look like his season only lasted two weeks, so maybe that factors in.

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I don't know how those rules work, but wrestlestat shows he had quite a few matches that season in open tournaments. It looks like he had 10 more matches, after I filter out the duplicates. But, it does look like his season only lasted two weeks, so maybe that factors in.

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I believe it is a percentage of a teams total events. One open tournament with 4-5 matches counts the same as a dual...I think