Re: NDSU Women's wrestling program?
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HerdBot
Omaha was able to become competitive within a few years. Quinnipiac won the National Championship.
Fargo Moorhead is hockey town. We have more kids playing hockey, have a shit ton of facilities and even host squirt international. The Force substantially outdraw NDSU Basketball because it's huge. It would take a decade to compete with UND but if Quinnipiac can do it, we can. Just bordering Minnesota will give us talent by default
We should do both. The womens scholarships in wrestling would balance for title 9 too. Womens wrestling will lose money and hockey will be a revenue sport
I don't think he means we couldn't put a decent team on the ice. I think he means that we would probably never be like UND. The programs would be very different based on tradition, support, etc.
I'd like to see NDSU get a team at some point if FBS isn't in the cards and/or we aren't going to take basketball more seriously.
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Keep in mind that money thrown at a hocky program means less for the gridiron program.
Re: NDSU Women's wrestling program?
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NI4NI
Keep in mind that money thrown at a hocky program means less for the gridiron program.
Not if you tap into new donors and support. Also if we can draw 5,000 a game, that could be a shit load of Teammakers revenue. Enough to where it becomes a revenue sport and the budget is in the top tier. Not UND or Minnesota big but certainly competitive with powerhouse programs like Winippiac (sp)
It would require a big donor to do it right
Re: NDSU Women's wrestling program?
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ByeSonBusiness
I don't think he means we couldn't put a decent team on the ice. I think he means that we would probably never be like UND. The programs would be very different based on tradition, support, etc.
I'd like to see NDSU get a team at some point if FBS isn't in the cards and/or we aren't going to take basketball more seriously.
SDSU had no tradition and they are currently better in all sports than we are
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td577
ML wasn't brought here to build programs. He was hired to build facilities. Different ADs have different strengths and his is getting buildings built and the fundraising and project management behind that. I say this not to excuse the lack of program building, but that isn't why he was hired. In a perfect world, he should have an assistant AD whose the program builder.
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lol...wow ok this attitude is why we are where we are in relation to the our "peers"
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tjbison
lol...wow ok this attitude is why we are where we are in relation to the our "peers"
First of all, let's be honest here. No one cares about any other program when football is winning championships. Aside from football, every other program, except MBB, is performing decently. WBB is in a post-season tourney. Wrestling is regrouping from a coaching change. Blah, blah, blah.
So, where everyone is really bent about is football, and that peer institutions have caught up. What did it take for those schools to catch up? Sdsu had spent their entire existence trying to copy what NDSU was doing. They spent 365/24/7 for years recruiting, game planning, and everything else with a single mission, while NDSU is the most dominating program since Bill Russell or John Wooden worrying about the field. For the bunnies to fully catch up and win a championship, it took all of that focus on one program, covid, the transfer portal, and a team pact to stay together. They didn't create a culture, they borrowed one. The f'n hawks hit the perfect game at the perfect time. They haven't caught up. We saw how usd caught up in the playoffs.
The Bison will return to gridiron greatness with the roster they have, and while I like Entz, I'm not bothered by a coaching reset. Especially when it is kind of a throwback to earlier success.
While no one was giving Matt Larson a handy while they were winning, it is his fault they are not? Yes, his strengths lie in facility and infrastructure growth. In the long run, these were things needed, or we fall further behind. The ad is not any reason for peer schools having a couple of good years.
Lastly, I guarantee if we had an AD that was all world at every possible aspect of the job, they wouldn't be here long. Just like every other job in the athletic department of a mid- major program, this place is a stepping stone institution where you are honing skills.
My attitude is keeping things in front of me and seeing things for what they are and not what I pretend them to be.
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Re: NDSU Women's wrestling program?
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td577
Sdsu had spent their entire existence trying to copy what NDSU was doing. They spent 365/24/7 for years recruiting, game planning, and everything else with a single mission, while NDSU is the most dominating program since Bill Russell or John Wooden worrying about the field. For the bunnies to fully catch up and win a championship, it took all of that focus on one program, covid, the transfer portal, and a team pact to stay together. They didn't create a culture, they borrowed one. The f'n hawks hit the perfect game at the perfect time. They haven't caught up. We saw how usd caught up in the playoffs.
All their focus on one program? Have you been paying attention to what they've been doing in every sport? All while trying to catch us on the grid iron. Like 'em or hate 'em, that's impressive...and inexcusable.
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The bunnies just opened a new $4 million dollar state of the art wrestling facility. Pretty nice blue print the BiZon should copy. Face it, SDSU has done more than catch up.
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NI4NI
All their focus on one program? Have you been paying attention to what they've been doing in every sport? All while trying to catch us on the grid iron. Like 'em or hate 'em, that's impressive...and inexcusable.
Then donate more money
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Then donate more money
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