Re: McFeely's Tip Sheet: NDSU working toward Alston payments for athletes
Quote:
Originally Posted by
tjamz
SD, if anything the NIL and transfer portal are free market capitalism. Literally the opposite of socialism in that every athlete gets compensated to the degree that the market will bear.
The previous version was basically a union job where everyone gets paid the same regardless of contribution level. On top of that there was a non-compete clause. That's quite literally a socialist ideology where the entity in charge controls the access to and means of production. The NCAA maintained centralized control over the commercial aspects of collegiate sports. By controlling the ability of an athlete to be paid for their NIL it basically took the money they generated and redistributed it to the other governing agencies.
Screaming that something is socialist/communist doesn't make it so, just like defending something that is socialist doesn't make it capitalism.
Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk
Being a socialist (like a real one that reads theory and leads union campaigns), it will never stop being hilarious to me what Americans think socialism is. Or for that matter capitalism.
That said you are vastly closer than SDbison.
Anyway, let's get back to talking about our local state-owned sports team.
Re: McFeely's Tip Sheet: NDSU working toward Alston payments for athletes
Quote:
Originally Posted by
reformedUNDfan
Being a socialist (like a real one that reads theory and leads union campaigns), it will never stop being hilarious to me what Americans think socialism is. Or for that matter capitalism.
That said you are vastly closer than SDbison.
Anyway, let's get back to talking about our local state-owned sports team.
What the hell, I didn't realize you were a freakin' pinko commie bastard.....wow, just goes to show a person learns something new everyday.
Re: McFeely's Tip Sheet: NDSU working toward Alston payments for athletes
Quote:
Originally Posted by
reformedUNDfan
Being a socialist (like a real one that reads theory and leads union campaigns), it will never stop being hilarious to me what Americans think socialism is. Or for that matter capitalism.
That said you are vastly closer than SDbison.
Anyway, let's get back to talking about our local state-owned sports team.
I don't disagree at all. My point is that college athletics was setup more socialist (though not exactly socialist in the traditional sense) before than now.
Another analogy I like is this: if a chemistry major on scholarship set up an onlyfans and made $2 million no one would say a thing. No one would scream from the rooftops that we can't pay our chemists for their name image and likeness.
Give them a football and now it's somehow socialist?
Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk
Re: McFeely's Tip Sheet: NDSU working toward Alston payments for athletes
Quote:
Originally Posted by
SDbison
Hey dumbasses, college football was never set up to be a business. So all this crap about players deserving money is just garbage. For most of the last century the only compensation was free tuition and that was good enough. Also, it took a lot more than college athletics to build up the university system of today and without that there wouldn't be the spectacle that fans are drawn to watch.
Was college football set up to have luxury locker rooms and player lounges?
Re: McFeely's Tip Sheet: NDSU working toward Alston payments for athletes
I mean to be fair, hating (or being afraid of) socialism (or at least what they think that word means), yet wanting it to apply to everyone else except yourself seems like peak late-stage capitalism. So I guess they’re on the nose there.
Re: McFeely's Tip Sheet: NDSU working toward Alston payments for athletes
Quote:
Originally Posted by
NDSU92
I mean to be fair, hating (or being afraid of) socialism (or at least what they think that word means), yet wanting it to apply to everyone else except yourself seems like peak late-stage capitalism. So I guess they’re on the nose there.
It's like that in many aspects of life it seems, people end up advocating for that which they were once against.
Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk
Re: McFeely's Tip Sheet: NDSU working toward Alston payments for athletes
I expect a lot of the money getting thrown around is going to dry up. Donors will want to see some tangible results. My thinking is that over time it will be a relatively small number of high-profile guys/gals making good pretty good money while the rest dont get much or anything at all.
Re: McFeely's Tip Sheet: NDSU working toward Alston payments for athletes
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ByeSonBusiness
I expect a lot of the money getting thrown around is going to dry up. Donors will want to see some tangible results. My thinking is that over time it will be a relatively small number of high-profile guys/gals making good pretty good money while the rest dont get much or anything at all.
Completely agree with this
Re: McFeely's Tip Sheet: NDSU working toward Alston payments for athletes
USC's Caleb Williams recently said he made around $10 million in NIL money at USC. Anyone who thinks this is a positive thiing in College Football is an idiot. Lectures about us older folks not being down with this nonsense are laughable, and you reveal that you are but a child in matters of Life. Congratulations on your ruining College Football. Morons.
Re: McFeely's Tip Sheet: NDSU working toward Alston payments for athletes
Quote:
Originally Posted by
DCinOK
USC's Caleb Williams recently said he made around $10 million in NIL money at USC.
Vikings had a better deal with Herschel Walker.
The kid's a head case.