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Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
Where would NDSU's 2nd string team be ranked in the Top 25 right now if they were a team:
QB Zeb Noland
RB Kobe Johnson, Saybein Clark
WR Keparius, Mathis
TE Noah Gindorf
OL sundell,Willis, Kubas etc
DL Waege, Pierce , Biegler etc
LB stumpf, jasir cox, luke weertz
CB talbert, price
S Kaczer, Weber
I'm missing a few and I'm not even counting many true freshman.
I say Top 10-15. what say you?
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
Unanimous #1.
In fact, I think our second string would beat our starters by 3 TDs.
NO ONE has depth like NDSU.
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Our 2nd string would be an FBS team so we really wouldn't even bother talking about our first team anymore.
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
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WeAreThePride
Unanimous #1.
In fact, I think our second string would beat our starters by 3 TDs.
NO ONE has depth like NDSU.
ok calm down
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
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El_Chapo
ok calm down
Yeah. Calm down.
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
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WeAreThePride
Yeah. Calm down.
I'm actually serious, the fcs is that bad once you get past #10
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i think a lot of pud teams make up the rankings from 10-25. a lot of over inflated wins & rankings due to terrible conferences.so I put 15-25
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
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El_Chapo
I'm actually serious, the fcs is that bad once you get past #10
I know you’re serious, that’s the sad part.
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Yea, that QB threw for 300 vs Oklahoma
for the 2 RB's you could put Dimtri out there too if you consider Ty Brooks and Adam Cofield #1, #2.
Kobe/Saybein wouldn't miss a beat, neither would the OL/DL and Linebackers/Safeties.
look at the top 25 and tell me which of the bottom five would be better than our 2nd team
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
Where would NDSU's 2nd string team be ranked in the Top 25 right now if they were a team:
QB Zeb Noland
RB Kobe Johnson, Saybein Clark
WR Keparius, Mathis
TE Noah Gindorf
OL sundell,Willis, Kubas etc
DL Waege, Pierce , Biegler etc
LB stumpf, jasir cox, luke weertz
CB talbert, price
S Kaczer, Weber
I'm missing a few and I'm not even counting many true freshman.
I say Top 10-15. what say you?
Silly speculation. BUT, if they had a certain coach named "Ditka," then FBS top 10 for sure!
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
The better question might be:
If Trey and Zeb had to take turns picking their team and could pick anyone on the roster, how good would each team be? Would either be top 5? Would that both be? (assuming no injuries/need for substitutions...just starting talent)
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I like this hypothetical question. Since most of our 2s eventually become 1s and since they’d be younger but playing more I think it’s top 10 easily.
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This is the most NDSU fan thread ever........AND I think it's still true that NDSU's second stringers would be a top 20 team.
I hate to agreed with El Chapo, but seriously, what team ranked between 20 and 25 would you pick to beat NDSU's second team?
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Purely Hypothetical question. We don't have any quality observable evidence to make a fair assessment of the 2's and 3's.
But since it is hypothetical, i would wager they would be ranked in about 20-25 this year. Would win a playoff game and then lose.
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Just considering potential 2nd team members; but not which coaches, assuming the coaches would be experienced Bison coaches, TOP 15-25.
Reasons: 1) They are still developmental, but have demonstrated potential based on game performances; 2) they are steeped in the Bison culture; 3) Bison coaches tend to get the most out of each player; 4) Code Green 2 Defense; 5) Rams and QB quality; 6) potential opponents
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This is the most ridiculous thread ever. (Well this is Bisonville, so this actually ranks quite far down the list of ridiculous threads).
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
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tjamz
The better question might be:
If Trey and Zeb had to take turns picking their team and could pick anyone on the roster, how good would each team be? Would either be top 5? Would that both be? (assuming no injuries/need for substitutions...just starting talent)
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Yeah I think this is the question. I'm 100% sincere when I'd say I think one of the teams would be 2nd in the valley and the other might be 4th-5th in the valley. One is a seeded team and the other is an 8 seed at best. more than likely and at large. Both make it to the quarters, one makes the semis. MAYBE one makes frisco- but I cant imagine a world where they would actually win.
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I’d say fringe top 25. Really know way to judge that.
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Our second team would beat Butler, UND, Delaware, Cal Davis, Illinois State, UNI, Missouri State, Youngstown State, WIU, USD and SIU.
Our second team would lose to SDSU.
10-1 and ranked 3rd heading to the playoffs.
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
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HandoEX
Our second team would beat Butler, UND, Delaware, Cal Davis, Illinois State, UNI, Missouri State, Youngstown State, WIU, USD and SIU.
Our second team would lose to SDSU.
10-1 and ranked 3rd heading to the playoffs.
Sdsu fans would become extremely jealous of our second lil brother team
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Some people don't realize just how good Zeb Noland really is. There was very good reason it took all of Spring,Summer, and well into fall camp before a starter was named; and when Trey was named starter Entz made the declaration that the decision was based on making it more difficult for other teams to game plan against the Bison.
In other words, Zeb Noland may very well be a better all around QB than Trey, and is without a doubt, a much better pure passer, but Trey is an exceptional rushing QB that drives opposing coaches nuts.
Yah, if our 2nd team was really well coached, they could beat anybody in the FCS, including the Bison first team.
The 2nd team's biggest weakness would be inexperience at CB, but with the way Trey is missing lately, that might not be exploited all that much.
Biggest difference by far, no Tuszka,no Jabril Cox.
Does anyone doubt that Gindorf is better than Hawley kid already?
With Noland at QB in a an extreme up tempo spread offense that uses it's RB's and TE's heavily in the pass game......man, they might be unstoppable.
If Terrell Hall and Antonio Coleman are really all that.....
If the Reed kid from Wisconsin really is the next Kyle Emanuel.....
Weerts,Hendricks,JasirCox, Mark Stumpf, playing Mike and Strong, Julian Wlodarczyk playing weak side LB.....
Will Jayden Price move to free safety?? Will Dom Jones play CB next year? Will the interior defense become a dominant force like never before in the next few years??
Seriously, even with the loss of Great players like Tuszka,Hendricks,Brooks,and Bridges, The 2020 Bison football team may very well be the best ever. Pray Jabril Cox doesn't declare for the draft in 2020, because if he goes off in the playoffs like he is capable of doing his stock is going to sky rocket, and it's already pretty high.
Bison Football is the greatest fan experience of any sport anywhere on the globe!
Bison football is ludicrous. This organization is so loaded with talent from the top echelons of University brass to the waterboy, it's just amazing.
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
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Originally Posted by
Alsen
Some people don't realize just how good Zeb Noland really is. There was very good reason it took all of Spring,Summer, and well into fall camp before a starter was named; and when Trey was named starter Entz made the declaration that the decision was based on making it more difficult for other teams to game plan against the Bison.
In other words, Zeb Noland may very well be a better all around QB than Trey, and is without a doubt, a much better pure passer, but Trey is an exceptional rushing QB that drives opposing coaches nuts.
Yah, if our 2nd team was really well coached, they could beat anybody in the FCS, including the Bison first team.
The 2nd team's biggest weakness would be inexperience at CB, but with the way Trey is missing lately, that might not be exploited all that much.
Biggest difference by far, no Tuszka,no Jabril Cox.
Does anyone doubt that Gindorf is better than Hawley kid already?
With Noland at QB in a an extreme up tempo spread offense that uses it's RB's and TE's heavily in the pass game......man, they might be unstoppable.
If Terrell Hall and Antonio Coleman are really all that.....
If the Reed kid from Wisconsin really is the next Kyle Emanuel.....
Weerts,Hendricks,JasirCox, Mark Stumpf, playing Mike and Strong, Julian Wlodarczyk playing weak side LB.....
Will Jayden Price move to free safety?? Will Dom Jones play CB next year? Will the interior defense become a dominant force like never before in the next few years??
Seriously, even with the loss of Great players like Tuszka,Hendricks,Brooks,and Bridges, The 2020 Bison football team may very well be the best ever. Pray Jabril Cox doesn't declare for the draft in 2020, because if he goes off in the playoffs like he is capable of doing his stock is going to sky rocket, and it's already pretty high.
Bison Football is the greatest fan experience of any sport anywhere on the globe!
Bison football is ludicrous. This organization is so loaded with talent from the top echelons of University brass to the waterboy, it's just amazing.
preach!....
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
LETS PLAY ENTIRE 2nd team to start 2nd half. lets see how we do. +35
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
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El_Chapo
LETS PLAY ENTIRE 2nd team to start 2nd half. lets see how we do. +35
Defense not so good
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ThunderDan
Defense not so good
couple bad angles..
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
pretty sure our 2nd string beats New Hampshire and has that #10 spot locked down on the committee
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
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El_Chapo
pretty sure our 2nd string beats New Hampshire and has that #10 spot locked down on the committee
Committee f'ed up. Bad choice. But yeah I think we'd do ok against them. Hard to hold up on the trenches though with the youth you're suggesting
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We’d be terribly thin in the secondary.
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
Looking at the last 8 teams here.
my 12/11/19 update:
1 NDSU
2 JMU
3 Weber
4 Montana
5 NDSU 2nd team
6 Montana St
7 UNI
8 Illinois St
9 Austin Peay
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
Looking at the last 8 teams here.
my 12/11/19 update:
1 NDSU
2 JMU
3 Weber
4 Montana
5 NDSU 2nd team
6 Montana St
7 UNI
8 Illinois St
9 Austin Peay
Id move Weber down to 5 and NDSU2 up to 4th.. FCS is gonna look real awful in 3 years when JMU and the Montanas jump to fbs…
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fmfantasy
Id move Weber down to 5 and NDSU2 up to 4th.. FCS is gonna look real awful in 3 years when JMU and the Montanas jump to fbs…
What makes you think this is happening?
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
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fmfantasy
Id move Weber down to 5 and NDSU2 up to 4th.. FCS is gonna look real awful in 3 years when JMU and the Montanas jump to fbs…
LOL!!! Why does this keep happening!?!?!?!!?!?!
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Re: Where would you RANK NDSU's 2nd string in the FCS if they were a team.
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
Looking at the last 8 teams here.
my 12/11/19 update:
1 NDSU
2 JMU
3 Weber
4 Montana
5 NDSU 2nd team
6 Montana St
7 UNI
8 Illinois St
9 Austin Peay
Ok so realistically I think you’re high on the 2nd string.
The offense would score plenty of points against most defenses, but people think we are weak on the interior DL and LB positions as it is. Fill out those positions with 2nd stringers and it doesn’t look quite so good.
2nd Offense:
QB- 1st team quality
OL- solid / maybe 1st quality
RB- 1st team quality
FB- 1st team quality
TE- 1st team quality
WR- mediocre
2nd Defense:
DE-solid
Interior DL- mediocre
LB- mediocre
S- 1st team quality
CB- mediocre
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X-Factor
Ok so realistically I think you’re high on the 2nd string.
The offense would score plenty of points against most defenses, but people think we are weak on the interior DL and LB positions as it is. Fill out those positions with 2nd stringers and it doesn’t look quite so good.
2nd Offense:
QB- 1st team quality
OL- solid / maybe 1st quality
RB- 1st team quality
FB- 1st team quality
TE- 1st team quality
WR- mediocre
2nd Defense:
DE-solid
Interior DL- mediocre
LB- mediocre
S- 1st team quality
CB- mediocre
2 years from now those mediocre D guys will be the best defense in the FCS and we all know it.. just like every other year. so even though we dont know them really well I bet there are some really good players..
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thebootfitter
What makes you think this is happening?
all 3 of them have stadiums that can sit 20K plus and likely expandable.. Jmu is gone for sure and few doubt that. I just think the montanas will get sick of being an also ran to ND and SD schools and move up- join Boise and them when the realign comes.. You know that whole playing for natties that Bison fans love? Well they aren't ever doing that so might as well go to a bowl game every couple years and not be second fiddle to NDSU.
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fmfantasy
all 3 of them have stadiums that can sit 20K plus and likely expandable.. Jmu is gone for sure and few doubt that. I just think the montanas will get sick of being an also ran to ND and SD schools and move up- join Boise and them when the realign comes.. You know that whole playing for natties that Bison fans love? Well they aren't ever doing that so might as well go to a bowl game every couple years and not be second fiddle to NDSU.
From what I’ve heard or read, not one of those teams plan on moving, especially the Montana schools. McFeely did a story on JMU last year and they didn’t seem interested either.
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fmfantasy
Id move Weber down to 5 and NDSU2 up to 4th.. FCS is gonna look real awful in 3 years when JMU and the Montanas jump to fbs…
Yea Weber doesn't have an offense, good point.
Noland would tear apart most of these teams on his own with 4 wide recievers out there.
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fmfantasy
all 3 of them have stadiums that can sit 20K plus and likely expandable.. Jmu is gone for sure and few doubt that. I just think the montanas will get sick of being an also ran to ND and SD schools and move up- join Boise and them when the realign comes.. You know that whole playing for natties that Bison fans love? Well they aren't ever doing that so might as well go to a bowl game every couple years and not be second fiddle to NDSU.
JMU is gone if, and only if, they get a CUSA or AAC invite. They've been offered by the Sun Belt in recent memory and turned it down. And you haven't been paying much attention to the Montana schools if you think they are in any position to go FBS anytime in the next several years.
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Hammersmith
JMU is gone if, and only if, they get a CUSA or AAC invite. They've been offered by the Sun Belt in recent memory and turned it down. And you haven't been paying much attention to the Montana schools if you think they are in any position to go FBS anytime in the next several years.
NDSU FCS forevers say we need a bigger stadium, more money and don't want to give up the fcs titles... the Montana schools have the stadiums and are never going to win titles so is it a money issue?