Re: NDSU Capital Building Requests 2013-2015
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Originally Posted by
344Johnson
UND seems like it is funded well enough.
If you do peer funding comparisons nationally, UND is woefully underfunded for a doctoral, research university with a medical school and law school.
I'm not sure where NDSU stands amongst its land grant peers when it comes to funding comparions, but I suspect the same is true.
I've said it before; I'll say it again: The State of ND has too many schools. Shut down Bottineau, Mayville, and Valley City. Make LRCC a Distance Ed outreach center from UND.
Re: NDSU Capital Building Requests 2013-2015
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Originally Posted by
The_Sicatoka
If you do peer funding comparisons nationally, UND is woefully underfunded for a doctoral, research university with a medical school and law school.
I'm not sure where NDSU stands amongst its land grant peers when it comes to funding comparions, but I suspect the same is true.
I've said it before; I'll say it again: The State of ND has too many schools. Shut down Bottineau, Mayville, and Valley City. Make LRCC a Distance Ed outreach center from UND.
UND is funded at over 60% of its peer groups. NDSU was funded at 39 or 40% of its peers - the 8.8% tuition increase was put in to get them to around 45% (still the worst in the system.)
Can't find the exact numbers for some reason.
Re: NDSU Capital Building Requests 2013-2015
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Originally Posted by
tony
UND is funded at over 60% of its peer groups. NDSU was funded at 39 or 40% of its peers - the 8.8% tuition increase was put in to get them to around 45% (still the worst in the system.)
Can't find the exact numbers for some reason.
Page 24/25: http://www.ndsu.edu/fileadmin/budget...enatefinal.pdf
2009-2011
95% VCSU
90% NDSCS
87% MASU
79% DCB
76% MISU
75% WSU
55% UND & SMHS
51% BSC
51% DSU
48% LRSC
39% NDSU
2011-2013
Code:
Requested Approved
BSC 817,200 (59%) 1,168,227
LRSC 329,200 (55%) 384,371
WSC 250,000 (84%) 348,788
UND&MED 4,584,167 (62%) 4,853,642
NDSU 7,059,068 (46%) 6,005,607
NDSCS 250,000 (97%) 705,863
DSU 710,365 (58%) 477,163
MaSU 250,000 (95%) 190,965
MiSU 250,000 (82%) 567,621
VCSU 250,000 (105%) 289,003
DCB 250,000 (87%) 249,315
http://www.legis.nd.gov/fiscal/bienn.../215comply.pdf
Re: NDSU Capital Building Requests 2013-2015
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Originally Posted by
Hammersmith
Page 24/25:
http://www.ndsu.edu/fileadmin/budget...enatefinal.pdf
2009-2011
95% VCSU
90% NDSCS
87% MASU
79% DCB
76% MISU
75% WSU
55% UND & SMHS
51% BSC
51% DSU
48% LRSC
39% NDSU
2011-2013
Code:
Requested Approved
BSC 817,200 (59%) 1,168,227
LRSC 329,200 (55%) 384,371
WSC 250,000 (84%) 348,788
UND&MED 4,584,167 (62%) 4,853,642
NDSU 7,059,068 (46%) 6,005,607
NDSCS 250,000 (97%) 705,863
DSU 710,365 (58%) 477,163
MaSU 250,000 (95%) 190,965
MiSU 250,000 (82%) 567,621
VCSU 250,000 (105%) 289,003
DCB 250,000 (87%) 249,315
http://www.legis.nd.gov/fiscal/bienn.../215comply.pdf
So 46% was the target but they took away $1 million+? Wonder what that left NDSU at (and where would NDSU be without the 8.8% tuition increase?)
Re: NDSU Capital Building Requests 2013-2015
I think it's pretty clear where the best ROI is, if legislators and the state board are interested in such things.
Re: NDSU Capital Building Requests 2013-2015
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Originally Posted by
Tatanka
I think it's pretty clear where the best ROI is, if legislators and the state board are interested in such things.
Do you honestly believe that the legislators and state board either understand what ROI represents in this context or that this group as a whole even gives a shit about the need for a 'fair' funding method?
Re: NDSU Capital Building Requests 2013-2015
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Originally Posted by
BlueBisonRock
Do you honestly believe that the legislators and state board either understand what ROI represents in this context or that this group as a whole even gives a shit about the need for a 'fair' funding method?
Not even for a split second, on either account.
Re: NDSU Capital Building Requests 2013-2015
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Originally Posted by
tony
So 46% was the target but they took away $1 million+? Wonder what that left NDSU at (and where would NDSU be without the 8.8% tuition increase?)
Total revenue from tuition for fiscal 2010 was ~$86.5 million, so if I'm thinking about this correct, the tuition increase (assuming it was applied across the board) resulted in roughly $7 million in additional revenue?
pg 47
http://www.ndsu.edu/fileadmin/budget...enatefinal.pdf