Re: Newman Center project
If you stumble out of the Turf and take a leak on the side of that building or puke on the lawn is it a mortal or a venial sin?
Re: Newman Center project
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Bison 4 Life
If you stumble out of the Turf and take a leak on the side of that building or puke on the lawn is it a mortal or a venial sin?
I've probably already done that by accident at the existing church. Just say a few hail Mary's while your pissing
Re: Newman Center project
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Originally Posted by
Bison 4 Life
If you stumble out of the Turf and take a leak on the side of that building or puke on the lawn is it a mortal or a venial sin?
If you're pissing I'd guess that's a veinal sin.
Re: Newman Center project
NIMBY neighbors. Seems like a good project. My question is what is the property tax situation on the housing portion?
Re: Newman Center project
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HerdBot
I've probably already done that by accident at the existing church. Just say a few hail Mary's while your pissing
I haven't done that but if I did, it's a good thing I'm not Catholic.
I have thrown up on the lawn of the Clay County Courthouse though.
Re: Newman Center project
It is a good project, these neighbors complain about everything, you live next to a university not really sure why they think it should be a single family neighborhood.
Re: Newman Center project
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NDSUstudent
It is a good project, these neighbors complain about everything, you live next to a university not really sure why they think it should be a single family neighborhood.
Yep. And the reality is those houses had like 10 people living in each of them anyways. Most were broken up to be 4 apartments. Now they will have have nice shiny apartments aimed at Catholic NDSU students and you can't really party it up in a place like that. If anything it will have a calming effect on the neighborhood.
And no, I am definitely NOT Catholic.
Re: Newman Center project
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bisonaudit
NIMBY neighbors. Seems like a good project. My question is what is the property tax situation on the housing portion?
I don't think it's really a NIMBY situation. Some context is needed to understand why people are upset.
The section of Fargo between Main and 19th is serviced by three elementary schools: Washington(Broadway and 19th - near Fargo North), Madison(near the I-29/12th Ave Stamart - south of the old 12th Ave Stop-N-Go), and Horace Mann/Roosevelt(two schools - K-2 & 3-5). All of these schools are under capacity and the district is already looking at closing one of them and splitting the kids between the two others. Because Horace Mann and Roosevelt are two of the oldest buildings left in the district, it's likely those schools will be the ones closed. If that happens, most of the kids in the area in question will be bused across the 12th Ave viaduct to Madison.
When you hear residents talking about how this project could be the death of their neighborhood, what they mean is that the loss of single family homes between this project and the project across from the SHAC with cross the tipping point in regards to Roosevelt enrollment. The district won't be able to justify keeping it open, and when that happens the desirability of that area for families will plummet. It could start a death spiral for that whole area.
OTOH, it's also not right to artificially freeze an area forever. I feel for the residents affected, but I think that area of Fargo needs to change. Still, we shouldn't just dismiss their concerns out of hand or act like they're just being selfish assholes. That whole area has been mostly single family homes for 80+ years. The increase in NDSU enrollment and demands for additional student housing has only picked up in the last decade or two.
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Hammersmith
I don't think it's really a NIMBY situation. Some context is needed to understand why people are upset.
The section of Fargo between Main and 19th is serviced by three elementary schools: Washington(Broadway and 19th - near Fargo North), Madison(near the I-29/12th Ave Stamart - south of the old 12th Ave Stop-N-Go), and Horace Mann/Roosevelt(two schools - K-2 & 3-5). All of these schools are under capacity and the district is already looking at closing one of them and splitting the kids between the two others. Because Horace Mann and Roosevelt are two of the oldest buildings left in the district, it's likely those schools will be the ones closed. If that happens, most of the kids in the area in question will be bused across the 12th Ave viaduct to Madison.
When you hear residents talking about how this project could be the death of their neighborhood, what they mean is that the loss of single family homes between this project and the project across from the SHAC with cross the tipping point in regards to Roosevelt enrollment. The district won't be able to justify keeping it open, and when that happens the desirability of that area for families will plummet. It could start a death spiral for that whole area.
OTOH, it's also not right to artificially freeze an area forever. I feel for the residents affected, but I think that area of Fargo needs to change. Still, we shouldn't just dismiss their concerns out of hand or act like they're just being selfish assholes. That whole area has been mostly single family homes for 80+ years. The increase in NDSU enrollment and demands for additional student housing has only picked up in the last decade or two.
Horace Mann or Roosevelt should have been closed 10 years ago. The school district continues to prop up underenrolled schools. I'm not dismissing their concerns but change is hard. And its well past time for those schools.