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2021-2022 Men's Basketball Season
The roster:
34 - Rocky Kreuser - SR
12 - Andrew Kallman - SR
3 - Tyree Eady - JR
5 - Sam Griesel - JR
2 - Willie Guy - SO
11 - Jarius Cook - SO
23 - Maleeck Harden-Hayes - SO
0 - Dezmond McKinney - FR
4 - Grant Nelson - FR
21 - Boden Skunberg - FR
22 - Joshua Streit - FR
24 - Grayson Haman - FR
32 - Andrew Morgan - FR
33 - Kolbe Rada - FR
Who is going to redshirt?
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Haman/Rada redshirt
I'd redshirt Boden & Dez if they promised not to transfer
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Joe Lunardi released an obviously early ‘22 bracket. Jacks with a 14 seed.
https://t.co/NKCYctvU9F
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
Haman/Rada redshirt
I'd redshirt Boden & Dez if they promised not to transfer
The only person I would consider redshirting is Streit, unless his minutes are needed, and I suppose Rada could.
Dez? No, he's the guy until proven otherwise.
Let's hope that Morgan is the impact player that I think he could be.
Bison are the favorite in 2022, not the Rabbits.
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
Haman/Rada redshirt
I'd redshirt Boden & Dez if they promised not to transfer
Two PGs are on the roster, and you want to redshirt one?
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HandoEX
Two PGs are on the roster, and you want to redshirt one?
Lakes point makes a lot of sense on multiple levels...
1. The offense with Griesel at the point is not going away. Not saying he will start there again this year or that it will be the majority of minutes, but you will see this team use that offense again this year.
2. Willie Guy...the juco transfer, is a very good player. He led his team to a national championship and was the MVP of the national tournament. He was also the MVP of his conference. Guy and McKinney will compete for minutes and just watching his juco film, Guy is a more developed player at this point...so would be surprised if Guy does not win that competition.
3. Andrew Kallman, the Northern State transfer, played PG for the Wolves last year. He is more of a combo guard, but he is a good ball handler and distributor and will definitely help with the ball handling this year.
So there is three guys right there who can all play the PG position...only so many minutes to go around at that spot.
4. Finally, I like Dez as a player and I think he can be highly productive. But for him to truly reach his potential, he has to work on his outside shot...it is not very pretty or effective at this point. Taking a redshirt year would give him a chance to rework his shot (much like the Bison did with Jarius Cook) and give him a better chance of making a bigger impact on this program, just like Cook.
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Is there a reason to even redshirt anymore? It seems like at this point the whole trade a freshman year for an extra year when the player has developed is a waste with the transfer system the way that it is.
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FBMIND is exactly right
and Oldmantutters probably is too, just play everyone b4 they transfer
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Originally Posted by
fbmind
Lakes point makes a lot of sense on multiple levels...
1. The offense with Griesel at the point is not going away. Not saying he will start there again this year or that it will be the majority of minutes, but you will see this team use that offense again this year.
2. Willie Guy...the juco transfer, is a very good player. He led his team to a national championship and was the MVP of the national tournament. He was also the MVP of his conference. Guy and McKinney will compete for minutes and just watching his juco film, Guy is a more developed player at this point...so would be surprised if Guy does not win that competition.
3. Andrew Kallman, the Northern State transfer, played PG for the Wolves last year. He is more of a combo guard, but he is a good ball handler and distributor and will definitely help with the ball handling this year.
So there is three guys right there who can all play the PG position...only so many minutes to go around at that spot.
4. Finally, I like Dez as a player and I think he can be highly productive. But for him to truly reach his potential, he has to work on his outside shot...it is not very pretty or effective at this point. Taking a redshirt year would give him a chance to rework his shot (much like the Bison did with Jarius Cook) and give him a better chance of making a bigger impact on this program, just like Cook.
With last year not counting toward eligibility, Dez is a Freshman again this year. Redshirting for Dez? Idiotic gentlemen. Totally Idiotic move if he were to redshirt. He is playing his 2nd Freshman season as it is. if he Redshirts, he'd have 3 Freshman seasons. Is anyone wanting to be in school for 6 years?
The only guys it makes sense for to Redshirt are this years' incoming Freshmen. (Streit, Morgan or Rada). That's it, let's apply a little bit of sense here.
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someone's gonna redshirt we can't dress 14 or 15. can we?
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Wouldn't be surprised if Boden redshirted.
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Originally Posted by
fbmind
Lakes point makes a lot of sense on multiple levels...
1. The offense with Griesel at the point is not going away. Not saying he will start there again this year or that it will be the majority of minutes, but you will see this team use that offense again this year.
2. Willie Guy...the juco transfer, is a very good player. He led his team to a national championship and was the MVP of the national tournament. He was also the MVP of his conference. Guy and McKinney will compete for minutes and just watching his juco film, Guy is a more developed player at this point...so would be surprised if Guy does not win that competition.
3. Andrew Kallman, the Northern State transfer, played PG for the Wolves last year. He is more of a combo guard, but he is a good ball handler and distributor and will definitely help with the ball handling this year.
So there is three guys right there who can all play the PG position...only so many minutes to go around at that spot.
4. Finally, I like Dez as a player and I think he can be highly productive. But for him to truly reach his potential, he has to work on his outside shot...it is not very pretty or effective at this point. Taking a redshirt year would give him a chance to rework his shot (much like the Bison did with Jarius Cook) and give him a better chance of making a bigger impact on this program, just like Cook.
Richman is going to fall in love with Kallman. Book it. He's exactly the type of player Dave loves - solid, not flashy, won't commit TOs and plays defense. I just hope it does not come at the expense of others on the roster with higher ceilings...
He's going to get a ton of minutes and people on here will freak out. Mentally prepare yourselves.
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I would love to see Dez start, but that would leave 2 good players off the bench. Our best starting 5 is probably:
1 Sam
2 Cook
3 Eady
4 Nelson
5 Kreuser
MHH can be 6th man and come in if Nelson or Kreuser pick up quick fouls. Plus you have Morgan, Dez/Guy, and I hope to see Kallman as a quality shooter off the bench. Boden could maybe RS, but he does fill a little bit of a need at the 2 spot.
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Originally Posted by
ndsubison1
I would love to see Dez start, but that would leave 2 good players off the bench. Our best starting 5 is probably:
1 Sam
2 Cook
3 Eady
4 Nelson
5 Kreuser
MHH can be 6th man and come in if Nelson or Kreuser pick up quick fouls. Plus you have Morgan, Dez/Guy, and I hope to see Kallman as a quality shooter off the bench. Boden could maybe RS, but he does fill a little bit of a need at the 2 spot.
Dez needs to be a better 3 point shooter before I'd love to see him start. Huge liability to his game as is.
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EC8CH
Dez needs to be a better 3 point shooter before I'd love to see him start. Huge liability to his game as is.
I guess it's less about starters to me, and more about minutes.
IMO, the following folks should get minutes in these positions.
1). Dez, Kolllman, Guy (whoever performs and leads)
2&3) Griesel, Eady, Cook, MHH (split), Skunny
4&5) Rock, Nelson, Morgan, MHH (split)
Streit is the guy that makes sense to R-Shirt, plug in next year when Rocky is gone; possibly Rada.
I do like Cook starting . . . he seems to get out of the gate quickly (both havles). In games where we've started quickly, he seems to be the guy. I'd start Rock, Nelson, Griesel, Cook, Dez . . . with Eady, Kollman, MHH coming in quickly.
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Originally Posted by
ndsubison1
Wouldn't be surprised if Boden redshirted.
I'd be ok with Boden redshirting, but I don't see it happening. Dave likes him and seemed to give him more minutes than he should have last year, IMO.
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I would ride 30min a game with these guys & shorten the bench if you want to be 25-5
Greisel
Eady. (or Willie Guy if he is legit)
Nelson
Morgan
Rocky
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I talked to Sam yesterday outside of SHAC. dude is looking tough, he has hit the weight room. I told him 25-5 is the goal, make it happen and he said sure will
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So where is NDSU with MBB and WBB TV? Does WDAY have dibs on that, or does Midco have the TV rights? Would like to see some statewide TV thru WDAY mixing in some wresting too . . . although I'm in the TCites and its ESPN+ for me either way.
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Herd
So where is NDSU with MBB and WBB TV? Does WDAY have dibs on that, or does Midco have the TV rights? Would like to see some statewide TV thru WDAY mixing in some wresting too . . . although I'm in the TCites and its ESPN+ for me either way.
Dean B promised us in Sioux Falls 5 years ago that NDSU basketball would be on statewide and possibly fox sports north.. oh well, now he's a professor.
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Herd
So where is NDSU with MBB and WBB TV? Does WDAY have dibs on that, or does Midco have the TV rights? Would like to see some statewide TV thru WDAY mixing in some wresting too . . . although I'm in the TCites and its ESPN+ for me either way.
Pretty sure this was discussed before and WDAY has the rights with most of the BB games airing on their extra station.
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Originally Posted by
Herd
So where is NDSU with MBB and WBB TV? Does WDAY have dibs on that, or does Midco have the TV rights? Would like to see some statewide TV thru WDAY mixing in some wresting too . . . although I'm in the TCites and its ESPN+ for me either way.
"majority of basketball and Olympic sports airing statewide on WDAY Xtra". WDAY Xtra I believe is on Midco and can get it on antenna in Bismarck. Not sure about other areas. Should be available online too.
https://gobison.com/news/2021/5/13/g...nications.aspx
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
I would ride 30min a game with these guys & shorten the bench if you want to be 25-5
Greisel
Eady. (or Willie Guy if he is legit)
Nelson
Morgan
Rocky
I'm still down w this lineup
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Originally Posted by
El_Chapo
I'm still down w this lineup
How likely is it that the Morgan kid starts?
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Unlikely, Id give the nod to a Cook, MHH, or McKinney instead.
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Originally Posted by
ndsubison1
Unlikely, Id give the nod to a Cook, MHH, or McKinney instead.
Didn't think it would follow Richman's MO to put that many bigs out there at once. More likely starting another smaller guard and saving Morgan to spell Rockie or Nelson.
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Greisel
Cook
Eady
Nelson
Rocky
I think thats the starting 5 we will see. With MHH and Morgan coming off the bench. Will be curious to see who wins out the back up mins at the guard spots between Dez/Kallman/Guy/Boden. Sure seems like a redshirt year for Streit, hard to see a ton of minutes for him this season. Just my guess anyways, going to be a fun season. The makeup and depth of this roster should allow the coaching staff some different options that will give opposing teams some real trouble.
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Originally Posted by
EC8CH
Didn't think it would follow Richman's MO to put that many bigs out there at once. More likely starting another smaller guard and saving Morgan to spell Rockie or Nelson.
He would have to be elite to start as a FR, i.e. Dylan Miller elite.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsBison
Greisel
Cook
Eady
Nelson
Rocky
I think thats the starting 5 we will see. With MHH and Morgan coming off the bench. Will be curious to see who wins out the back up mins at the guard spots between Dez/Kallman/Guy/Boden. Sure seems like a redshirt year for Streit, hard to see a ton of minutes for him this season. Just my guess anyways, going to be a fun season. The makeup and depth of this roster should allow the coaching staff some different options that will give opposing teams some real trouble.
I'm really interested to see how the rotations work this year, I think the lineup you have would put our 5 most talented guys on the floor and I'm all for it but I'm wondering if getting Greisel off the ball more is going to be the goal. I could see us starting:
Guy or Dez
Cook (Kallman/Skunberg)
Greisel (MHH)
Eady (Nelson)
Rocky (Morgan)
This would likely make for better rotations at the other 4 spots but obviously leaves us without Grant Nelson in the starting lineup. I could see Dave not starting him and playing him as that early sparkplug off the bench like he did with Dex. There's definitely no shortage of talent on this years roster so will be interesting to see how Dave goes about it. I do think Rada and Streit will redshirt this season, at least they should anyway just because I don't think there are minutes there to be had. I listed 11 guys in rotation there already and usually by conference play Dave has it down to 9 or 10 at the most so it's likely somebody will be squeezed out already.
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Locked up my new season ticket seats yesterday and was able to tack on the women's season tickets for $100, if you haven't been to a women's game in the last two years they are definitely worth that add on. Team started practice today and November 1st can't come fast enough, it's almost hoops season!
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This really is a note to the moderators - but perhaps it is time to revise the subheading for WBB here. We have hearkened back to D2 days long enough. How about a new tagline that heralds the return of NDSU WBB to a competitive level in D1?
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Good to see the updates to weight and heights on the roster. Nelson now listed at 6'11 225, and Morgan at 6'10 230. Should rival the best front courts ever in bison history with that size and athleticism. Wish we could play more MVC games, turns some heads. Seems like we are sort of blackballed on the basketball side by everyone other than Indiana State and Mo State in the MVC. It's probably a, we'll play you at home, but we won't do a home/home kind of a deal with most of them.
Cant understand why there's not more juice about bison basketball. Going to be an epic season. The fans are pretty pathetic, need a jolt. If we could just get football to go 3-8.
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I'm beyond excited, also excited about all the new updates with home games at the SHAC. Beer in seats and bringing back outside food vendors so can get a decent meal at the game are definitely big wins for fans in my book.
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Excited for new season, new seats, new team, all of it. They definitely have the length, just need a true PG to emerge and spread it around to all the bigs and bang in some threes.
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Eady looks trimmer this year than last year. Hopefully that leads to him being a little more explosive.
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Herd
Good to see the updates to weight and heights on the roster. Nelson now listed at 6'11 225, and Morgan at 6'10 230. Should rival the best front courts ever in bison history with that size and athleticism. Wish we could play more MVC games, turns some heads. Seems like we are sort of blackballed on the basketball side by everyone other than Indiana State and Mo State in the MVC. It's probably a, we'll play you at home, but we woget soln't do a home/home kind of a deal with most of them.
Cant understand why there's not more juice about bison basketball. Going to be an epic season. The fans are pretty pathetic, need a jolt. If we could just get football to go 3-8.
I told my buddy that this could be NDSU most successful basketball team ever if can get solid play at PG position. I want a SWEET SIXTEEN run!!!!!
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Kujava23
I told my buddy that this could be NDSU most successful basketball team ever if can get solid play at PG position. I want a SWEET SIXTEEN run!!!!!
If we can get some good non-conference wins (and the rest of the league does that too) so we can get a higher RPI, then sweet 16 could happen. If not, we'll be stuck at a 15 or 16 seed if we make the tourney.
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Bison Bridge Guy
If we can get some good non-conference wins (and the rest of the league does that too) so we can get a higher RPI, then sweet 16 could happen. If not, we'll be stuck at a 15 or 16 seed if we make the tourney.
The top 3 in the Summit with us, SDSU and ORU should definitely do our part, UMKC, WIU, USD and Omaha should be okay...little concerned UND, Denver and St. Thomas are going to be real bad and bring us down a bit this year. SDSU has Alabama, Nevada, Washington, George Mason and Washington St. ORU has Colorado St, Oklahoma St, Tulsa and TCU along with our schedule of UNLV, Arizona, Creighton and Indiana St. There's definitely wins to be had, UMKC also has Minnesota, Iowa and Missouri to open their season, their style of defense can be tough to go against early in the year so they could potentially pull one out too. I do think if the top 3 in our league stay consistent and get a few of those wins we should be able to get at least a 13-14 seed, I think we'll beat each other up a little too much to get to the 12 line.
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bisonfan08
The top 3 in the Summit with us, SDSU and ORU should definitely do our part, UMKC, WIU, USD and Omaha should be okay...little concerned UND, Denver and St. Thomas are going to be real bad and bring us down a bit this year. SDSU has Alabama, Nevada, Washington, George Mason and Washington St. ORU has Colorado St, Oklahoma St, Tulsa and TCU along with our schedule of UNLV, Arizona, Creighton and Indiana St. There's definitely wins to be had, UMKC also has Minnesota, Iowa and Missouri to open their season, their style of defense can be tough to go against early in the year so they could potentially pull one out too. I do think if the top 3 in our league stay consistent and get a few of those wins we should be able to get at least a 13-14 seed, I think we'll beat each other up a little too much to get to the 12 line.
What did Western IL bring in to lift them from the bottom group? They were not good last season. Also, I'd expect USD to push up into the top group.
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Herd
What did Western IL bring in to lift them from the bottom group? They were not good last season. Also, I'd expect USD to push up into the top group.
They brought in a few more transfers, one of their top recruits missed most of last season as a freshman with an injury so he'll be back to full strength and just a full off season in the coaches system should help a ton. Have to remember they lost a ton of players, basically started from scratch with their roster and had a new coach and system with no offseason to implement it last year due to covid. They have some talent and will be much more prepared this year, should be competitive in the middle of the pack.