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New DC Grant Olson, Nick Goeser Co-DC
https://x.com/domizzowday/status/173...Q4GrZGoCkZ3bZQ
Per Izzo: Confirming @ESPNRittenberg's report;
Grant Olson has been promoted to defensive coordinator with Nick Goeser taking over as co-defensive coordinator.
Jason Petrino will not be retained.
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Wow hope he's a better DC then LBer and ST coach......
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Really not sure what to think of this move... promote all your friends??
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KTF
Really not sure what to think of this move... promote all your friends??
Maybe it's promoting anyone Bisonville wants gone. Being unliked by Bisonville is the Kiss of Success! LOL.
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GFBison
Maybe it's promoting anyone Bisonville wants gone. Being unliked by Bisonville is the Kiss of Success! LOL.
Lakes going to become NDSU Prez then.
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I like it!
Get back to the basics of Bison football with a defense ran by guys who know whats up!
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Just thinking out loud, maybe our problems at LB are more personnel than coaching.
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IMO, this is a bad hire for a offensive head coach, especially as a first timer. I feel like you needed someone with extensive experience - I actually didn't think it was Petrino's fault, he's had good defenses where he's been and he inherited a bit of a dumpster fire. I would have said he would have been one of the most likely to stay on through at least next season.
I hope I'm wrong and they crush it. Goeser does make me feel slightly better, but we shall see.
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LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
Just thinking out loud, maybe our problems at LB are more personnel than coaching.
I feel like that is likely, at least, somewhat true. I think Petrino's defense wasn't that bad, we seemed to be in position to make plays, we just missed a LOT of tackles. Is that on the first year DC, LB coach, or the HC? I guess we shall see lol
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I got no issue with it. Give them a chance and see how the chips fall. Olson is a natural born leader so it was only a matter of time before he got a shot. For those hung up on the LB play, they played a hell of a lot better at the end of the year, so give the coaches some credit. (Not to mention, I tend to think we've had some recruiting/roster management hiccups there....)
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Originally Posted by
LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
Just thinking out loud, maybe our problems at LB are more personnel than coaching.
Who had the bright idea of kicking to that griz man eh? Just thinking out loud.
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LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
Just thinking out loud, maybe our problems at LB are more personnel than coaching.
Absolutely are.
Look at Gully and Kopp. Those guys can ball. Had a couple other dudes in there that couldnt get it done and lackluster play by our interior line really hampered our defense's ability to get teams off schedule and get off the field. Olson was in a no win situation and Goose was coaching arguably the best group on the defense.
With the young talent we have, the Bison defense is going to be a force!
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I mean Phil Hansen gave the special teams a D grade and that was only because we made field goals or it would have been an F.
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G_Funky
Absolutely are.
Look at Gully and Kopp. Those guys can ball. Had a couple other dudes in there that couldnt get it done and lackluster play by our interior line really hampered our defense's ability to get teams off schedule and get off the field. Olson was in a no win situation and Goose was coaching arguably the best group on the defense.
With the young talent we have, the Bison defense is going to be a force!
Thanks man, I've worked really hard.
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I don't know what to think about it. STs were brutal. LBs were not great. Hope it works out.
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But it says Nick Goeser Co-DC. So who is in charge of DC. Am I missing something? Generally startled to see Grant in this position.
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AlumniGreen
But it says Nick Goeser Co-DC. So who is in charge of DC. Am I missing something? Generally startled to see Grant in this position.
That's another thing I don't quite get, why the need for a co-DC unless you don't have full confidence in 1 guy. Seems like a weird message to send out IMO
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Bisonator98
That's another thing I don't quite get, why the need for a co-DC unless you don't have full confidence in 1 guy. Seems like a weird message to send out IMO
You would be surprised at how many schools have co-coordinators.
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Bisonator98
That's another thing I don't quite get, why the need for a co-DC unless you don't have full confidence in 1 guy. Seems like a weird message to send out IMO
Maybe it’s different for athletics. But at Universities generally the easiest way to pay people more money is to change their job title.
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It just means they'll have different duties/assignments. Article makes it sound like Olson is the main DC.
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Not sure what to think but I hope Grant is a better Defensive Coordinator than he is a Special Teams Coordinator.
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Have they mentioned who the new Special Teams Coordinator is yet?
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noryan34
Maybe it’s different for athletics. But at Universities generally the easiest way to pay people more money is to change their job title.
This is a great point. Goeser was a priority holdover and they wanted to give him a bump in pay/responsibilities before he left.
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If memory serves, Grant was a hell of a field general when he was on the field. Had the ability to read an offense and direct his teammates. I'm hoping that this translates to DC better than it did LB/ST. Reading offenses, identifying tendencies, and anticipating what the opposing OC is going to throw at him is typically better suited for a DC than a position coach IMO.
I don't hate the promotion, but I'm not in love with it either. We'll see in a few months I guess.
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https://x.com/kolpackinforum/status/...Q4GrZGoCkZ3bZQ
Per Kolpack: Lewis Walker will remain d-backs assistant and Jeff Phelps will remain as d-tackles coach.
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Not sure what to make of this. But I’m glad Petrino is gone.
Still no definitive answer on roehl?
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Originally Posted by
G_Funky
Absolutely are.
Look at Gully and Kopp. Those guys can ball. Had a couple other dudes in there that couldnt get it done and lackluster play by our interior line really hampered our defense's ability to get teams off schedule and get off the field. Olson was in a no win situation and Goose was coaching arguably the best group on the defense.
With the young talent we have, the Bison defense is going to be a force!
Idk... still not buying it. You named two guys in the entire group and one hardly played any meaningful snaps last year. It's not like the LB position had the attrition issues that the defensive secondary had either in terms of contributors leaving. They have not recruited the position well recently IMO and that's on the position coach as well since I'd assume he has a large say in how the recruiting boards sets up for that position.
I hope you're right though - Grant is definitely a great person and a great Bison so would be awesome to see him be successful in this spot.
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tjamz
If memory serves, Grant was a hell of a field general when he was on the field. Had the ability to read an offense and direct his teammates. I'm hoping that this translates to DC better than it did LB/ST. Reading offenses, identifying tendencies, and anticipating what the opposing OC is going to throw at him is typically better suited for a DC than a position coach IMO.
I don't hate the promotion, but I'm not in love with it either. We'll see in a few months I guess.
It's a totally different skill set. Special teams is more scheme and the players have to execute. Calling a defense is like calling plays
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Bisonator98
Wow hope he's a better DC then LBer and ST coach......
Yeah agree...not excited about it
Is there a reason hes bounced around and not moved up before?
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Olson will call plays, Goeser will work on schemes.
Seems like the best usage for both, given Grant's "general" status when he was running the D as a player.
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Originally Posted by
LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
Just thinking out loud, maybe our problems at LB are more personnel than coaching.
Who recruited the personnel? Wasn't he linebackers coach for 5 years...pretty sure he would have had say in who they recruited for the postion.
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NDSUBowler
Olson will call plays, Goeser will work on schemes.
Seems like the best usage for both, given Grant's "general" status when he was running the D as a player.
So Goeser is the "big picture guy" and Olson is the "play-to-play guy"....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q38O7fg9ogI
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HerdBot
It's a totally different skill set. Special teams is more scheme and the players have to execute. Calling a defense is like calling plays
That's kinda what I was trying to get at
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Originally Posted by
LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
Just thinking out loud, maybe our problems at LB are more personnel than coaching.
Wondering if this move had something to do with Petrino's position/philosophy on DT technique and resultantly exposing our LBs to major roles is taking on blockers when they aren't built for that right now. Granted our Dline is smaller, and we got gashed even last year up the middle, but there are still techniques that can be used to keep LBs clean. We started to change DT technique late this season by stemming to it, and it seemed to help, but stemming to it like we did isn’t the best way to do it IMO.
Regardless, we need 10 extra pounds on all front seven without losing speed at the OLB position. We also need to coach up tackle/pursuit angles at all positions unfortunately (that really should be innate ability/instinct). And one of the OLBs coming back shouldn’t be on the field … regardless.
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tjamz
That's kinda what I was trying to get at
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Way more to STs really, especially KO and punt coverage.
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Logan Kopp had a very good season. He was first team MVFC. Kubitz also had a good season. Oscar Benson is probably the other outside linebacker.
When Grant Olson played the coaches always raved about his football IQ.
I'm assuming Goeser is helping Grant with the game plan. When Klieman and Hazelton were coaching together they always talked about the collaboration between the coaches to come up with the game plan.
I really like this hire. Go Bison!
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KC_Hats
Logan Kopp had a very good season. He was first team MVFC. Kubitz also had a good season. Oscar Benson is probably the other outside linebacker.
When Grant Olson played the coaches always raved about his football IQ.
I'm assuming Goeser is helping Grant with the game plan. When Klieman and Hazelton were coaching together they always talked about the collaboration between the coaches to come up with the game plan.
I really like this hire. Go Bison!
Outstanding!!
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Originally Posted by
KC_Hats
Logan Kopp had a very good season. He was first team MVFC. Kubitz also had a good season. Oscar Benson is probably the other outside linebacker.
When Grant Olson played the coaches always raved about his football IQ.
I'm assuming Goeser is helping Grant with the game plan. When Klieman and Hazelton were coaching together they always talked about the collaboration between the coaches to come up with the game plan.
I really like this hire. Go Bison! ��
I am skeptical of this hire. Go Bison.