A new and better FBS thread

At this point, the FCS Title Game is basically a bowl game with attendance at roughly 20k thanks to NDSU. Some will say “but we are national champions!” National Champions of who? Mercer, Western Illinois, San Diego, Stony Brook? Sure there are some different good teams this year in SDSU, MSU, and Incarnate Word I guess but who was good this year will fall off the face of the earth next season?

G5 is a step up in competition in every conference other than maybe CUSA. National Title in FCS is losing its luster to folks and it’s happening quickly. Bowl games aren’t a terrible deal and still have yet to find any evidence of a school that was once FCS complain/regret being in the FBS playing a “meaningless bowl game”. There is good football to be had in FBS.

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Originally Posted by MWC

It just doesn't occur to me to rip on other schools, FCS, their playoffs, their fans etc..

But it does occur to you to rip away..I just don't understand your mindset on this..Why so negative about everything..

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Living in the real world. You'll be OK.

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Originally Posted by 23Bison

At this point, the FCS Title Game is basically a bowl game with attendance at roughly 20k thanks to NDSU. Some will say “but we are national champions!” National Champions of who? Mercer, Western Illinois, San Diego, Stony Brook? Sure there are some different good teams this year in SDSU, MSU, and Incarnate Word I guess but who was good this year will fall off the face of the earth next season?

G5 is a step up in competition in every conference other than maybe CUSA. National Title in FCS is losing its luster to folks and it’s happening quickly. Bowl games aren’t a terrible deal and still have yet to find any evidence of a school that was once FCS complain/regret being in the FBS playing a “meaningless bowl game”. There is good football to be had in FBS.

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Nobody is arguing that it's a step "up" or not with competition even though NDSU has been playing G5 level of football for over a decade now. And people have been ripping the bowl games for years, this isn't a new phenomenon.

Now ask yourself with logic...who's going to take NDSU right now besides CUSA? What conference does it actual makes logical sense to add NDSU besides CUSA? Put yourself in tho shoes of the conferences and ask why? Everyone can throw out MWC left and right on here until they're blue in the face, as of right now or in the past 8 years it doesn't make common sense.

Will that change? Probably when 1-2 schools leave the MWC and weaken the conference.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

NDSU NOT BEING FBS has cost us numerous recruits the last couple years 3-4 decommits this year

Sigle just got a Kansas St offer

NDSU being treated like minor leagues by FBS teams picking off our best players.

10000 fans for last 3 games

our 2nd teasers are making the semi-finals/finals.

this is enough!!! we have to make a stand!!

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If NDSU moves up, we still get treated like "minor leagues"....you know that right?

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

Everyone can throw out MWC left and right on here until they're blue in the face, as of right now or in the past 8 years it doesn't make common sense.

Will that change? Probably when 1-2 schools leave the MWC and weaken the conference.

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This may happen sooner than most here seem to think.

PAC is rumored to be working with ESPN on a media deal that would allow them to take one or two MWC schools. Adding 1/2 MWC schools is said to be a serious discussion among PAC presidents now. My guess is this could be announced before next season starts, maybe over the summer or before.

Sure, that would leave the MWC a little weaker. But it would still easily be the 2nd or 3rd best conference in the G5, and the footprint and schools make a lot of sense for us.

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

Adding 1/2 MWC schools is said to be a serious discussion......... it would still easily be the 2nd or 3rd best conference in the G5, and the footprint and schools make a lot of sense for us.

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Losing the top of the MWC would make it just a half step above CUSA. Don't kid yourselves.

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Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness

If NDSU moves up, we still get treated like "minor leagues"....you know that right?

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He doesn't.

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Originally Posted by daddy daycare

Nobody is arguing that it's a step "up" or not with competition even though NDSU has been playing G5 level of football for over a decade now. And people have been ripping the bowl games for years, this isn't a new phenomenon.

Now ask yourself with logic...who's going to take NDSU right now besides CUSA? What conference does it actual makes logical sense to add NDSU besides CUSA? Put yourself in tho shoes of the conferences and ask why? Everyone can throw out MWC left and right on here until they're blue in the face, as of right now or in the past 8 years it doesn't make common sense.

Will that change? Probably when 1-2 schools leave the MWC and weaken the conference.

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It comes down to whether you want an opportunity or not. Nevada joined a conference 30 years ago that had schools dropping football right and left. Boise joined that same conference a few years later. We were playing, Arkansas State, La Tech, North Texas, Northern Illinois along with schools like Pacific, Fullerton, Long Beach State. It wasn't easy but both schools kept progressing.

I would never tell anybody they should move up, move down or which invitation to accept. That is up to you.

However, your predicament is your predicament. You have to figure out what you want as a school.

That is why I don't understand you continually running down G5 and bowls like your predicament is somehow their fault. It is hard for everybody..No conference is in the charity business. You certainly don't have to respect any schools out of the P5 and it appears that you don't. But constantly expressing disrespect doesn't change anything as far as NDSU is concerned.

Don't take me seriously. I don't.

Nothing I post is meant to be taken seriously either. Just message board stuff..