What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Alsen

I am still predicting the Dolphins will have injury issues at QB and Wentz will be signed and lead the Dolphins to at least an AFC Championship.

---

Hope so. But at this point, the league seems to be landing on "locker room issues."

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by heffray

Have you bought any spray paint recently?

---

SHhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bloodmakesthegrassgrow

SHhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

---

Lol well-played.

As Dandy Don Meredith used to sing at the end of Monday Night Football (back when it was on ABC), "Turn out the lights, the partys over."

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by heffray

I love this conversation. You made a lot of points above and I think I’d like to address them specifically…

1. I know what you mean by this, but I don’t think it’s fair to classify all conservatives as either “braindead” or “anti-woke”. I do actually agree that at this point, most of the people using the word “woke” are using it disparagingly to describe something they don’t understand or are against. But the actual truth of what they mean or represent should not just be generalized as a result of being “braindead,” “degenerate,” or “raging shitbags.” I know a lot of conservatives who are not those things, and frankly, a lot of liberals who do fit that description.
2. Thank you for pointing me in the direction of Liz. I will look up some of her work because I find that stuff interesting, but for sake of argument, her wiki page says she is Catholic, so I don’t think she would qualify as an “Evangelical.” See my next point for more on this.
3. I think we need to define “Evangelical.” It is not interchangeable with “Christian,” and it’s not a specific denomination of Christianity. It not specific to American Christianity, though I believe its primary driving force is rooted in American Protestant mainline denominations. In my experience, a proper definition of “Evangelical” is anyone who holds to some specific doctrines: Inerrancy of Scripture, The Trinity, and Substitutionary Atonement. Not all Christians believe these things, but most American’s who have conservative political values do, and most would describe themselves as Evangelical. Happy to dig into either of these 3 if you want.
4. I am familiar with the passage, but you are DEFINITELY over-generalizing to say the the Bible is “emphatically pro-abortion.” Just ask any evangelical Christian Apologist for an explanation of the Numbers problem and they’ll have an answer for you. That answer may not be satisfactory to you or me, but it is to them and that’s kinda the point (and the next point, too). Additionally, the Bible is emphatically anti-murder (see the Ten Commandments), and most Christians believe that an unborn fetus is a human life, ipso facto, the Bible is also anti-murder. Anyway, I think you see my point there…
5. I don’t think it’s fair to classify the doctrine of infant baptism as theological nonsense. To me, it follows pretty logically from the doctrine of Original sin and substitutionary atonement, and since we have verses that support baptism as a sacrament and medium for god’s atonement, then what happens to infants or children who die before they get baptized, free pass? Many evangelicals actually believe in something called “the age of accountability” as a way of explaining that away, but what is interesting is that this concept is found NO WHERE in the Bible. It was just something that was made up to make them feel better about all the dead babies.
6. Are you familiar with the “No True Scotsman Fallacy”? That is what you are doing here. Evangelicals who do not support “woke” ideas could easily say that anyone who doesn’t believe as they believe aren’t true Christians. And frankly, there are WAY more of them than there are Progressive Christians who support abortion rights and LGBTQ rights (for example). Who’s right? You, because you can’t see their side of the argument? Well, they can’t see yours either and we’re right back where we started.

---

No matter your occupation, :cheers: you are underemployed.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by AlumniGreen

No matter your occupation, :cheers: you are underemployed.

---

Thank you, although I’m still a little bummed that I never got a reply from rUNDf…

Wash vs Bears Carson Wentz 4-0 vs Bears and 1 of the BEST QB Blocks ever vs them!

https://x.com/WentzHOF/status/1709923190674227517?s=20

Wentz better fire his agent.

Tyson Bageant? freakin D2 rookie from. Shepherd University? was Bear backup and just scored on the Vikings.

wtf

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by El_Chapo

Wentz better fire his agent.

Tyson Bageant? freakin D2 rookie from. Shepherd University? was Bear backup and just scored on the Vikings.

wtf

---

Or maybe agent should fire Wentz he doesn’t bring in much income

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by El_Chapo

Wentz better fire his agent.

Tyson Bageant? freakin D2 rookie from. Shepherd University? was Bear backup and just scored on the Vikings.

wtf

---

It's Bagent. Get it right or his dad will tear your arm off.

https://x.com/krichprodctions/status...792317129?s=20

Wasn't the ACL injury that ruined him it was the cheap shot by Clowney in the playoff game. He was never the same after that concussion.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by El_Chapo

https://x.com/krichprodctions/status...792317129?s=20

---

Yeah that's not the injury that ended his career bro.

He only had 7 interceptions in 3 out of the four seasons that followed that injury. The year following the ACL (2018) he had a 102 QB rating and in 2019 passed for over 4000 yards and 27 tds to 7 ints. One bad year in Philly isn't odd its more normal even for really good QBs. The Bad year at Washington was all mental in my opinion as he struggled after getting discarded by two teams.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Bisonator98

Wasn't the ACL injury that ruined him it was the cheap shot by Clowney in the playoff game. He was never the same after that concussion.

---

This. One of the worst hits ever. Still can't believe there wasn't a flag, at the very least.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by El_Chapo

Wentz better fire his agent.

Tyson Bageant? freakin D2 rookie from. Shepherd University? was Bear backup and just scored on the Vikings.

wtf

---

Hard for an agent to get him a job when nobody wants him....NFL GM's don't take guys based on an agent hyping them up.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Wolfie

Hard for an agent to get him a job when nobody wants him....NFL GM's don't take guys based on an agent hyping them up.

---

You mean, the agent can't just pump it up?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Wolfie

Hard for an agent to get him a job when nobody wants him....NFL GM's don't take guys based on an agent hyping them up.

---

I guess waving the magic wand doesnt work as well as it does if you want to move up?

I saw something before the season started that Matt Ryan said he was all messed up from getting traded to the Colts during the offseason. Wentz was traded to Washington on a day he was throwing to Colts receivers at the facility. Wentz looked all out of sorts at the introductory press conference.

I think Rivera lied and he wasn't the one that wanted Wentz. I think it was Dan Snyder and as soon as it became apparent that Snyder was being forced out Rivera wasn't obligated to Wentz anymore.

Alex Smith said the Washington franchise is horrible to be a part of and it must be even worse when you are unexpectantly traded there.

Frank Reich wanted Wentz back for another season but was overruled. Reich should have said you get rid of Wentz you can fire me too. He was always going to be fired last year.

It sure seems like Wentz is never playing in the NFL again. It frees up my time because I have barely watched any NFL games this season. The current QB's are so bad and it makes it even worse that Wentz who is way better isn't in the league.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Snowgoose

He only had 7 interceptions in 3 out of the four seasons that followed that injury. The year following the ACL (2018) he had a 102 QB rating and in 2019 passed for over 4000 yards and 27 tds to 7 ints. One bad year in Philly isn't odd its more normal even for really good QBs. The Bad year at Washington was all mental in my opinion as he struggled after getting discarded by two teams.

---

What ruined his career was Foles winning the Super Bowl.

WOW these Wentz Highlights were insane!

https://x.com/VBSofficial_/status/17...052718846?s=20

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by El_Chapo

WOW these Wentz Highlights were insane!

https://x.com/VBSofficial_/status/17...052718846?s=20

---

They were, too bad he made his career highlight reel in his rookie year.

Amazing how PJ Walker is getting starts and Wentz isnt.

I sat next to some Bears fans at Perkins and they said they REALLLLLLLLY want Wentz in Chicago. :D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BISONBRI53

I sat next to some Bears fans at Perkins and they said they REALLLLLLLLY want Wentz in Chicago. :D

---

There are like 10 teams in the NFL that want Wentz, but his damn agent just doesn't know what he's doing. :D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RonMexico

There are like 10 teams in the NFL that want Wentz, but his damn agent just doesn't know what he's doing. :D

---

I knows ur right

Maybe he will be in Purple soon....

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JMB

Maybe he will be in Purple soon....

---

I wish he would get that chance but I don’t think he will for whatever the weird reason.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Snowgoose

I wish he would get that chance but I don’t think he will for whatever the weird reason.

---

This is probably his best chance...

Kirk cousins likely out for the year. Need a QB Their back up sucks.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by steelbison

Kirk cousins likely out for the year. Need a QB Their back up sucks.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

---

Might as well tank

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness

Might as well tank

---

I personally hate tanking as I think it sends the wrong message especially in the nfl. The nba is a little different cause one player can control the whole game. There have been lots of high QBs that have absolutely stunk.

Tom Brady or ride the rookie and look toward the draft

Sign Wentz for a cheap 1-year deal, what’s there to lose?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by heffray

Sign Wentz for a cheap 1-year deal, what’s there to lose?

---

Kfan was talking about trying to trade for Lance as a no risk type of try.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Snowgoose

Kfan was talking about trying to trade for Lance as a no risk type of try.

---

I guess i would say there is only more risk in Lance simply because you’d have to trade to get him. Wentz you just sign. ZERO risk.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JMB

Maybe he will be in Purple soon....

---

They'll sign Colt McCoy or someone stupid

Wentz has played very good when he has had protection. Right now, the Vikings o- line is near the top of the league in pass protection. This is probably as good of a match as you will find.

You only do it if you think this team is good enough to make some noise in playoffs. Not just make playoffs, but feel the Vikings could legitimately contend.

This is low risk/ high reward. No trade needed and can sign for 9 games and playoffs. If you really like him, then team can work on long term deal.

Sent from my SM-S918U using Tapatalk

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by td577

Wentz has played very good when he has had protection. Right now, the Vikings o- line is near the top of the league in pass protection. This is probably as good of a match as you will find.

You only do it if you think this team is good enough to make some noise in playoffs. Not just make playoffs, but feel the Vikings could legitimately contend.

This is low risk/ high reward. No trade needed and can sign for 9 games and playoffs. If you really like him, then team can work on long term deal.

Sent from my SM-S918U using Tapatalk

---

I agree, but wentz is in some corn field shooting snow geese which I should be doing is my guess and not taking calls. He probably doesn’t need the stress as he has been blamed for a lot of junk over the years.

Signing Wentz would be a no brainer for the Vikings so that's why it won't happen, their entire history as a franchise is doing stupid shit instead of what they should do.