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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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23Bison
Need a new stadium/dome. Not one made of fucking brick this time. I’ve said it many times but the type we need is a fully enclosed stadium like the Mosaic Stadium in Saskatoon. 30k expandable to 38k. Get this indoor practice facility up and start on that. No open air stadiums because it’s not ideal and don’t want to hear otherwise. Needs to happen!!!
The fbs season is over in November. There is much less importance on having an enclosed stadium when you just eliminated a whole month of home games in the month you absolutely can argue you want them inside.
If stadium size was a huge factor in not getting a fbs invite and ndsu had to build a larger stadium, enclosed increases the price exponentially. It isn't just a roof that increases the price but now you need an hvac system.
Tulane's Yulman field was built for 75m in 2014, seats 30k, and can be expanded in the future to 40k. Today's dollars would be much higher but still much more affordable than something enclosed and much cheaper to maintain.
If it is fbs or bust, then it also needs to be remembered there will not be December football.
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td577
The fbs season is over in November. There is much less importance on having an enclosed stadium when you just eliminated a whole month of home games in the month you absolutely can argue you want them inside.
If stadium size was a huge factor in not getting a fbs invite and ndsu had to build a larger stadium, enclosed increases the price exponentially. It isn't just a roof that increases the price but now you need an hvac system.
Tulane's Yulman field was built for 75m in 2014, seats 30k, and can be expanded in the future to 40k. Today's dollars would be much higher but still much more affordable than something enclosed and much cheaper to maintain.
If it is fbs or bust, then it also needs to be remembered there will not be December football.
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There would be Devember fotball, just be road trips in places generally warmer than Fargo
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
td577
The fbs season is over in November. There is much less importance on having an enclosed stadium when you just eliminated a whole month of home games in the month you absolutely can argue you want them inside.
If stadium size was a huge factor in not getting a fbs invite and ndsu had to build a larger stadium, enclosed increases the price exponentially. It isn't just a roof that increases the price but now you need an hvac system.
Tulane's Yulman field was built for 75m in 2014, seats 30k, and can be expanded in the future to 40k. Today's dollars would be much higher but still much more affordable than something enclosed and much cheaper to maintain.
If it is fbs or bust, then it also needs to be remembered there will not be December football.
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I have pointed out in the past that the local FBS team here in Minneapolis, while not enjoying the same type of success that our favorite team does, plays all their home games in an open air stadium.
Not only that but just a few years back the local professional team used that very same open air stadium to play through December and even into the playoffs while they rebuilt their own stadium in place.
Minneapolis is slight warmer than Fargo on average but not by THAT much.
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So UT and OU applied for an invite to the SEC yesterday. I thought you had to be invited? Can we apply to join a conference?
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WhoRepsTheLurker
“Pac-12 leaders here at the conference’s annual media day say the move compromises the expansion model and will almost assuredly delay its approval, even potentially resulting in wholesale changes to its structure.”
Or……..the 12 team expansion with the G5 involved was never real. It was a talking point for the non forward thinking people so they wouldn’t notice the real goal of realignment and separation from the NCAA going on in the background
To think the SEC was gonna allow the potential for a Sun Belt team to make the playoffs is straight up absurd
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SamsRams
“Pac-12 leaders here at the conference’s annual media day say the move compromises the expansion model and will almost assuredly delay its approval, even potentially resulting in wholesale changes to its structure.”
Or……..the 12 team expansion with the G5 involved was never real. It was a talking point for the non forward thinking people so they wouldn’t notice the real goal of realignment and separation from the NCAA going on in the background
To think the SEC was gonna allow the potential for a Sun Belt team to make the playoffs is straight up absurd
"Absurd" isn’t the right word. "Naïve" perhaps, but there’s no denying what’s righteous here and what’s simply self-serving inbred greed by the SEC.
But yeah, if this goes the way you suggest then the right thing for the G5 to do is walk away. I guess we’ll see how it all shakes out.
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NDSU AD Matt Larsen says he believes "NDSU is well positioned if a call came from an FBS conference.
https://mobile.twitter.com/domizzowd...223989764?s=21
ALL MY WORK IS PAYING OFF. ILL EXPECT A STATUE
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El_Chapo
This is the most FBS positive comment I recall from an NDSU official.
Does it mean anything? Who knows?
The Mountain West would need to be interested, obviously.
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Gully
This is the most FBS positive comment I recall from an NDSU official.
Does it mean anything? Who knows?
The Mountain West would need to be interested, obviously.
yeah, I made a similar point on Izzo's twitter thread. This kind of statement is substantively different than anything I've ever heard from ML on the topic. I'm hoping something is in the works.
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Professorbum
yeah, I made a similar point on Izzo's twitter thread. This kind of statement is substantively different than anything I've ever heard from ML on the topic. I'm hoping something is in the works.
Have a hunch the conversations have already taken place at NCAA functions. Now opening up for bidders.
Possible ML was waiting until a P5 shakeup opened more options. If so, well played yankee.
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I need more. This tweet from Izzo just makes my addiction worse.
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Geography and eyeballs.
It always seems to come down to those two factors.
And neither works in favor of this region.
If the MWC went looking, I'd suspect they'd look into the State of Montana first.
Out east I'd say JMU and Delaware get the geography (and budgets) nod.
No matter reality, folks from the rest of the country will say, "You want to go to Fargo, Brookings, Grand Forks, Vermillion, in January?" and the conversation is done.
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The_Sicatoka
Geography and eyeballs.
It always seems to come down to those two factors.
And neither works in favor of this region.
If the MWC went looking, I'd suspect they'd look into the State of Montana first.
Out east I'd say JMU and Delaware get the geography (and budgets) nod.
No matter reality, folks from the rest of the country will say, "You want to go to Fargo, Brookings, Grand Forks, Vermillion, in January?" and the conversation is done.
Why the hell would any of them bring up Grand Forks and Vermillion? Even Brookings is a stretch. I don't think NDSU is tied to any of those schools when it comes to a potential FBS move. That is the type of move where it's every man for himself, imo. SDSU would be the only program that being tied to COULD help but only if something like the MAC comes calling or the MWC gets decimated and dropped down a peg where they would look at grouping schools geographically.
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El_Chapo
This just re enforces what Ive been saying all along. Your narratives??? Not so much.
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Thanks for finally answering my question. Here’s another one
Why would NDSU moving up to FBS bother you so much? Why do you care?
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Originally Posted by
The_Sicatoka
Geography and eyeballs.
It always seems to come down to those two factors.
And neither works in favor of this region.
If the MWC went looking, I'd suspect they'd look into the State of Montana first.
Out east I'd say JMU and Delaware get the geography (and budgets) nod.
No matter reality, folks from the rest of the country will say, "You want to go to Fargo, Brookings, Grand Forks, Vermillion, in January?" and the conversation is done.
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56BISON73
This just re enforces what Ive been saying all along. Your narratives??? Not so much.
psh. this is probably just lip service to placate us.
no I will NOT give them any credit. it's been 5 years too late
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WhoRepsTheLurker
Why would NDSU moving up to FBS bother you so much? Why do you care?
Who says NDSU moving up would bother me?
I'm more interested in the dynamics of all the conference shuffling that is coming.
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Re: A new and better FBS thread
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Originally Posted by
The_Sicatoka
Geography and eyeballs.
It always seems to come down to those two factors.
And neither works in favor of this region.
If the MWC went looking, I'd suspect they'd look into the State of Montana first.
Out east I'd say JMU and Delaware get the geography (and budgets) nod.
No matter reality, folks from the rest of the country will say, "You want to go to Fargo, Brookings, Grand Forks, Vermillion, in January?" and the conversation is done.
With direct flights, indoor football, and an airport .5 mile from campus. Fargo is way more attractive than GF, Vermtown, Brookings...and Laramie
The Montana schools would be a package deal, not saying they wouldn't get the call but I'm pretty sure their stance on FBS has been known as a No for a long time
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Originally Posted by
23Bison
Need a new stadium/dome. Not one made of fucking brick this time. I’ve said it many times but the type we need is a fully enclosed stadium like the Mosaic Stadium in Saskatoon. 30k expandable to 38k. Get this indoor practice facility up and start on that. No open air stadiums because it’s not ideal and don’t want to hear otherwise. Needs to happen!!!
Ok with open air, just figure if in the winter we can tailgate outside for 5 hours then watching football inside an open air stadium for 3 hours the shouldn’t be an issue IF they sell booze
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HerdThat!
Ok with open air, just figure if in the winter we can tailgate outside for 5 hours then watching football inside an open air stadium for 3 hours the shouldn’t be an issue IF they sell booze
Hard to tailgate in the winter when you don't play home games in the winter in the FBS.
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for the last time.
FBS never plays past Nov 28th. And Conference may put NDSU on the road that last week every year to avoid cold.
So Nov 21 is worst/last day we could play outside , we'd be just fine.
Also, the travel bullshit worry. NDSU to Youngstown, Missouri, Indiana is same as Laramie, Denver, . big deal
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El_Chapo
for the last time.
FBS never plays past Nov 28th. And Conference may put NDSU on the road that last week every year to avoid cold.
So Nov 21 is worst/last day we could play outside , we'd be just fine.
Also, the travel bullshit worry. NDSU to Youngstown, Missouri, Indiana is same as Laramie, Denver, . big deal
This never after thanksgiving thing is all a bunch of BS. Everyone level transitioning to a full on tournament with at least 3 rounds.
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bisonaudit
This never after thanksgiving thing is all a bunch of BS. Everyone level transitioning to a full on tournament with at least 3 rounds.
huh? fbs won't play after that. and if NDSU wins the mountain west and is 12-0 in playoffs theyll.still be going on the road sir.
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Big 12 now believes the American is attempting to take all eight remaining members. Earlier report said "3-5" Big 12 members were being solicited Bob Bowlsby told CBS Sports. Story up soon.
BIG 12/AAC merge with Boise/BYU added gives them 20
WOW
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El_Chapo
Big 12 now believes the American is attempting to take all eight remaining members. Earlier report said "3-5" Big 12 members were being solicited Bob Bowlsby told CBS Sports. Story up soon.
BIG 12/AAC merge with Boise/BYU added gives them 20
WOW
And they’re blaming espn for it.
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I want to here more about the BIGPAC.
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bisonaudit
I want to here more about the BIGPAC.
A conference going *Lee Greenwood voice* from New York to LA.....seems really fucking lame.
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ByeSonBusiness
A conference going *Lee Greenwood voice* from New York to LA.....seems really fucking lame.
The NCAA isn’t a thing anymore. They spit the bit. The conferences are firmly in charge and the two biggest ones are the SEC and the BIG. Let’s just consolidate the P5 into 2 leagues and be done.
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WhoRepsTheLurker
If ESPN is sneaking around behind the backs of contracted conferences to help dictate movement with the intent to help ESPN then I would say that’s an issue and Disney should pay for it.
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bisonaudit
The NCAA isn’t a thing anymore. They spit the bit. The conferences are firmly in charge and the two biggest ones are the SEC and the BIG. Let’s just consolidate the P5 into 2 leagues and be done.
Nobody cares about the PAC. Leave them behind then lol. ACC-ACC-ACC!
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23Bison
If ESPN is sneaking around behind the backs of contracted conferences to help dictate movement with the intent to help ESPN then I would say that’s an issue and Disney should pay for it.
One would think
Guessing SEC expands with OU/UT regardless but that's where it stops. B12 then adds 2-4 in a "victory" lap?
SEC is the wily one here it seems
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Mountain West should invite NDSU & Montana. today
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El_Chapo
Mountain West should invite NDSU & Montana. today
Why would they invite two schools when they already have 12 teams?
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https://sports.yahoo.com/big-12-comm...054741624.html
Thamel
"The only safe prediction from the fallout is that the lawyers are licking their chops"
Plenty of dominoes left to fall, but my best guess is B12 robs AAC (why the hell not after this?), AAC robs MWC/CUSA, ... and everybody hates the SEC
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Why shouldn’t ESPN get to pick and choose? They write the checks.
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ByeSonBusiness
Why would they invite two schools when they already have 12 teams?
Because 12 isn’t 14. Then we would be able to listen to Grizz fans all year every year on how “this is the year”. And stupid shit about delicious gravy.
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ByeSonBusiness
Why would they invite two schools when they already have 12 teams?
Many say its about geography and eyeballs. Geography is nearly not a thing anymore considering the SEC and B1G.
If I was a conference I would invite as many as I can, capture eyeballs, and create a monopoly on games available- assist in scheduling top to bottom. SEC has a stranglehold on the biggest games now. Battle is for 3rd tier games.
Think marketing vs. football/tradition. Really odd to me that mid conferences haven’t taken this approach. The debunked idea of grabbing the whole MVFC? Or top teams from MVFC and Big Sky? I think would be brilliant. Simply put them in a division within my conference. Yeah yeah current dollars shared- but future dollars saved before my top teams start getting plucked.
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bisonaudit
Why shouldn’t ESPN get to pick and choose? They write the checks.
Mark Emmert agrees with you
