oh....thought this place had completely lost itQuote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
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oh....thought this place had completely lost itQuote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
Some are riding that ragged edge.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Honeybooboo
so assuming we got an invite to the MWC we wouldn't need to add sports? sorry that was a lot to readQuote:
Originally Posted by missingnumber7
Women's tennis and swimming/diving perhaps to offset the additional 22 scholarships. (Thanks title 9!)
Big 12 would be terrific if we could put up a 45,000 seat stadium and TEXAS/Oklahoma jump ship to sec
NDSU
Kansas
Kansas st
Iowa St
We could win that division!
Title IX is about A LOT more than scholarships. The 22 football scholarships are peanuts. Coach and assistant salaries are where the big bucks are and that's for football AND basketball.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Of course we would pay the Women's staffs more but nothing like the increases on the men's side.
Anybody know why Wyoming found it so easy to take pretty much our entire coaching staff? They did it because they could. They had the money and we didn't.
Itd be a Longhorn home game if they ever came to FargoQuote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
http://www.texasbob.com/stadium/simages/30.jpg
Largest crowd 33000 $33million stadium
Turn on ESPN 2 right now.
Espn2 sunbelt. UL-Lafayette at Texas State in San Marcus. Looks like. Funtime tailgating was rocking good crowd.
7-3 UL-L
it is a great stadium for starters for a school the size of NDSU.
man that'd be awesome.
"Hey what're you doin this tuesday"
"oh gonna tailgate, watch a football game thatl be aired on ESPN"
Baahahaha. The stadium was built in 1981.
The $33 million was the cost of an expansion in 2012.
so what'd it cost in 81? 10-15 mill? If this is what a ~40 mill dollar stadium starts out..NDSU should have been lobbying for this 2 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernBison
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobca..._(Texas_State)
$33million of an expansion of a stadium like Dacotah Field. C'mon UNDnorthernBison. NDSU could have this easily and it's a shame there isn't talks in place right now
Are you telling me that the facts were not checked and/or exaggerated? I do not believe you!Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernBison
Tailgr8er the information is above you, read it.
14-3 ragin cajuns
NorthernBison is actually a UND fan? color me shockedQuote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Does Dakota field seat 16k? That stadium did before renovations. the three tiered structure with premium and club seats was also done before the 33 mil reno.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
EDIT: It was 17 mil just for the premium club seating complex in 2009.
I'm still trying to figure out why you feel we would be ok with a outdoor stadium. I'm sorry but I believe a huge percentage of the fans today do not want to sit outside even in 45 degree weather. So where do you find 30k+ that will want to sit outside in the snow and wind? Those last 2-3 home games would be pretty quiet.
Well I think outdoor football is in our future, I don't see anyone stepping up to build another dome. It will just be way too expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAILG8R
I tend to agree with the point that outdoor football will have to be in our future but I am not convinced that people now or in 20-30 years who live with every convenience imaginable are going to want to be out in the elements regardless of the entertainment value on the field especially not 30k that will sit out in the snow and wind and worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
It will be a culture change that is for sure if it ever happens, it will definitely separate the diehards from the bandwagoners. The Montana schools do make it work though, so I guess there is that. Although the weather here is a bit more extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAILG8R
I wonder if you could build an outdoor stadium enclosed enough to keep the wind down, that would be the major challenge. I can sit out in 20 degree weather and feel fine but you get a roaring wind and well it certainly becomes way less appealing. The open airy stadiums from the south that lakes likes talk about certainly won't cut the mustard up here.
Last year---How many would have been in the stands when it was 17 below and 20 plus wind?Quote:
Originally Posted by TAILG8R
No need to build a bigger stadium if people arent going to show up due to harsh weather.
Best TCF experience ever was 10 degree snowing blizzard game for Vikings bears. It was a blast!
@ Montana state game was cold as hell. NDSU fans tailgated like champs.
Build a $80 million 40,000 seat stadium in between the fargodome and SHAC. Put overhangs up high behind the upper deck If the wind is blocked it won't be that bad!!
In FBS the last games are November 10 or so.. Get over it people
$80 seems very cheap to me. Isn't a more realistic price $200+?Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
November 29th this season.Quote:
In FBS the last games are November 10 or so.. Get over it people
http://espn.go.com/college-football/schedule/_/week/14
Winnipeg spent $200 million on a 33k seat stadium that can be expanded to 40k. I guess they would be our outdoor stadium model since it also seems somewhat enclosed...Quote:
Originally Posted by natstar1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aECYOZeH6BI
Our conference won't schedule us in last week, or just maybe we could be known for being a tough ass team in a tough guy town with a tough ass defense!!
We actually don't need a new stadium for the first 3 to 5 years WHEN we move up. Sell outs @ FargoDome would be @ the top in actual attendance in the MAC and Sunbelt.
Ideally, we need a 35,000 seat stadium soon thereafter.
The Sunbelt Conference for football only is not absurd as it sounds @ first blush. It's 5 dates of more jet fuel and travel expenses. However, NDSU gets a share of Sunbelt TV contract. And increased opportunity to play an SEC team in a nonconference game.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
Soooooo thats the upside for moving up? Tv money and a ooc game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
Playoffs. The bowl system will be eradicated within 10 years.
Impossible. Happened once in a 100 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by natstar1
You are assuming a lot. I would not risk the future of NDSU on your prognostications.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
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Originally Posted by Strongman
First it was "5 years" now its "10 years" how do we know it won't be 20 in a couple months?Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
honestly, after the upcoming Iowa game...what is there to risk?Quote:
Originally Posted by 56BISON73
I, apparently, am according to El Lako. I actually graduated from NDSU in 1984 and have been contributing to NDSU every year since. I don't publicy criticize the President when he hires an AD and I don't take shots at the AD's credentials in public forums. I wonder who they would listen to in a real discussion. Any guesses? Seriously, if the above suggestion by Lakes of a way to get an outdoor stadium was serious, we're talking to a CHILD. Of course, I already knew that based on PM's over the years, his neg rep fetish, and his insistence on accusing everybody who disagrees with him a UND fan or worse. Good grief. I know who will continue to support NDSU with their checkbook and who won't. Everybody knows that and it won't change.Quote:
Originally Posted by MNLonghorn10
So what do you think your favorite teams new name is gonna be??
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Quoted for a whole bunch of truthinessQuote:
Originally Posted by NorthernBison
Dam right im going to voice a concern when i see one. But Click on his forum posts. Make your own conclusion. Now stop interrupting our discussion with personal attacks and get back to the "forward thinkers" group.
Easily an outdoor stadium could work and money would be raised instantly you would not believe how quickly it'd be raised with football. Football is KING around here we all know it.
I still want to see our Pres/AD selling and pitching NDSU to mountain west/MAC/Sun Belt in that order. Gene Taylor could've done more he had the name recognition to request a meeting with the conference commissioners, maybe Dean will take over this role and contact these 3 conferences.....There hasn't been 1 public confirmation that anyone from NDSU has sales pitched there 3 .....or even let me know that NDSU is "interested" if called upon.
I invite you to check your math, unless you are subscribing to the take out the columns method of counting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongman
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/footba...dance/2013.pdf
Buffalo 6 games 136418 total 22736 ave
NIU 5 games 103334 total 20669 ave
Toledo 6 games 110803 total 18467 ave
NDSU 9 games 167600 total 18622 ave
I was going to say the playoffs boosted that, but the playoffs actually dropped the ave by about 80.
Now add a week night game in there and I am willing to bet that attendance drops at least 10 if not 20%.
Why would we call the Sun Belt? You've said some utterly insane things, but this tops the cake. The Sun Belt is a step backwards, remember if you are making the move at this point you are going for all sports. So you basically are going to triple the travel budget if not more than that for the Sunbelt, at least double for the MWC.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
And the whole accusing people of being UN? fans as you backup to everything is getting old. You would think you have something original...but you are definately beyond that.
Sorry, but saying things over and over and over again does not make a discussion and is hardly forward thinking!! The Sun Belt.... Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
[QUOTE=El_Chapo;928992]Dam right im going to voice a concern when i see one. But Click on his forum posts. Make your own conclusion. Now stop interrupting our discussion with personal attacks and get back to the "forward thinkers" group.
Easily an outdoor stadium could work and money would be raised instantly you would not believe how quickly it'd be raised with football. Football is KING around here we all know it.
I still want to see our Pres/AD selling and pitching NDSU to mountain west/MAC/Sun Belt in that order. Gene Taylor could've done more he had the name recognition to request a meeting with the conference commissioners, maybe Dean will take over this role and contact these 3 conferences.....There hasn't been 1 public confirmation that anyone from NDSU has sales pitched there 3 .....or even let me know that NDSU is "interested" if called upon.[/QUOTE]
Just because you didnt here of it doesnt mean it didnt happen.
And no an outdoor stadium in Fargo is not a good idea.
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Originally Posted by NDSUstudent
You'd think for $200 mil they would put the goalpost in the right spot.