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Originally Posted by
NorthernBison
Way off the mark? Really?
Other than NIU, have any MAC football teams been on National Broadcasts this year or last? I'm thinking not.
Not counting bowls 55 MWC games were on CBS, CBS Sports, ABC, Big 10 Network or ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU.
Not counting bowls 35 MAC football games were on Fox Sports 1, CBS sports, Big 10 Net or ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU
11 MVFC football games(counting NDSU's playoff games) were on Fox Sports 1, Big 10 Network or ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU
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Originally Posted by
Strongman
I just want to puke when I hear this broken record excuse OVER AND OVER AGAIN. You make it sound like it near impossible to be invited into a FBS conference. IF NDSU decided to go up, it would not be difficult to join the MAC or Sunbelt. All FCS conferences, not just the BSC conferences, are expanded to form superconferences. All conferences ideally want 16 team conferences, with two eight team divisions. Big Ten has added two more teams: Maryland and Rutgers. (LOCATION LOL) The Sun Belt has added Idaho, App. State and Georgia Southern. The non BCS conferences will be looking to expand for survival. From the MAC and Sunbelt's perspective, (and even the MWC), North Dakota State is an attractive addition. They would be near the top in attendance for football (MAC teams inflate their attendance figures). Our new basketball arena would be competitive and we would have the best baseball stadium in the conference. (I researched this last night.) NDSU would be a great addition to the Sun Belt conference and a good addition to the MAC conference.
Of course, if we just "wait" and see our opportunity might pass up by when the conferences fill up with 16 teams. Then NDSU is stuck where it is at, unless they want to be an independent like BYU.
You are delusional. NDSU brings nothing to the table as far as money or viewership to any FBS conference. Keep trying....
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Originally Posted by
Bisonator98
You are delusional. NDSU brings nothing to the table as far as money or viewership to any FBS conference. Keep trying....
No doubt. Dreamers I tell ya.
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Originally Posted by
MNLonghorn10
what the ef are you talking about?
ok.........make A LOT more sense now you drunk bastard.
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Originally Posted by
MNLonghorn10
I like how you say "Nobody watches" then you say "why should I care"...because you fucking said it!
What I said was that nobody outside of the fans of those schools watches, I never said anything about how many people watch. Do you really think that if we were FBS next year and we were playing ISU blue and the game was on Fox that we are going to get the same number of viewers that Ohio St and Michigan will have. Or do you think that the fans of other teams who are playing are going to say fuck watching my team, NDSU is on I'm gonna watch that instead.
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By the way, NDSU could stay in the Summit and join a conference for football only, i.e., like Idaho and New Mexico State did when it joined the Sun Belt.
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Originally Posted by
Strongman
By the way, NDSU could stay in the Summit and join a conference for football only, i.e., like Idaho and New Mexico State did when it joined the Sun Belt.
This is the most logical thing you've said about this whole thing and I certainly would be ok with it. However, I don't see NDSU doing anything like it. Plus there's still an increased athletics budget and scholarships and no playoffs to make at the end of the day.
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Originally Posted by
EndZoneQB
This needs to be said....there is nothing more "DII"(as is often used here to describe NDSU's mindset") than letting a fan site bother them.
It only bothers them in the fact that there so much MIS-information and idiocy in that regards. They know that a small amount of fans are just idiotic and stupid. They look out for the majority. There is nothing D2 in there vision and how they conduct their business. Only a very small minority would accuse them of such.
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Originally Posted by
Strongman
I just want to puke when I hear this broken record excuse OVER AND OVER AGAIN. You make it sound like it near impossible to be invited into a FBS conference. IF NDSU decided to go up, it would not be difficult to join the MAC or Sunbelt. All FCS conferences, not just the BSC conferences, are expanded to form superconferences. All conferences ideally want 16 team conferences, with two eight team divisions. Big Ten has added two more teams: Maryland and Rutgers. (LOCATION LOL) The Sun Belt has added Idaho, App. State and Georgia Southern. The non BCS conferences will be looking to expand for survival. From the MAC and Sunbelt's perspective, (and even the MWC), North Dakota State is an attractive addition. They would be near the top in attendance for football (MAC teams inflate their attendance figures). Our new basketball arena would be competitive and we would have the best baseball stadium in the conference. (I researched this last night.) NDSU would be a great addition to the Sun Belt conference and a good addition to the MAC conference.
Of course, if we just "wait" and see our opportunity might pass up by when the conferences fill up with 16 teams. Then NDSU is stuck where it is at, unless they want to be an independent like BYU.
Please provide proof of this statement. Have you talked to these conferences in this regard? No? Then what do you base this statement on?The FBS football fairy?
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Originally Posted by
NorthernBison
we don't play basketball at a level that would compete there.
In this discussion, why is it generally assumed that the other sports like basketball have to also move? Why is it impossible to imagine the Summit League teams remaining in that conference with the coaches salaries not changing. IF the football program moves up, wouldn't affiliate membership into an existing FBS League (MAC, MWC, Sunbelt, etc...) seem more economically feasible?
Just look 70 miles north. Hakstol gets paid according to the peers in his sport, whereas all the other coaches up there are paid according to Big Sky levels.
Geography does not seem to be as big a hurdle for football as it is in other sports. As it is now, the only conference road games using a bus for football are down in South Dakota. Flying to Laramie, Muncie, or Statesboro would be similar to flying to Terre Haute or Youngstown.
With the SHAC project getting the go-ahead and Oral Roberts coming back, the Summit League seems like a good fit for the other sports to remain in. Other than basketball, does any significant percentage of Bison fans care who the volleyball, soccer, golf, track, etc... teams compete against? The Summit provides a good, stable home for the teams currently in it.
This discussion should only pertain to the football program at this time. No need to attach the others unless it is absolutely necessary to move all of the teams to the FBS conference. If that is the case, then this move up is NOT happening for 15+ years minimum.
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Originally Posted by
56BISON73
Please provide proof of this statement. Have you talked to these conferences in this regard? No? Then what do you base this statement on?The FBS football fairy?
Logic. Objective criteria. Funny that other college football fans on other forums believe NDSU can move up. But the good old D2 NDSU fans think we should stay put.
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Originally Posted by
Strongman
Logic. Objective criteria. Funny that other college football fans on other forums believe NDSU can move up. But the good old D2 NDSU fans think we should stay put.
Its a shame your problems with reading comprehension werent addressed while you were in school. If those issues would have been addressed we wouldnt have to keep explaining things to you. yawn--one more time--
The subject of moving up in itself isnt the issue. Its the logistics of doing to so. As in---we need to be invited first. What no invites? Then the rest of the conversation is moot.
Dont really care if other college fans think we should move up or not. Using that as a reason is extremely poor debating technique and I doubt NDSU really cares about "other schools fan" LOL That one actually made me laugh.
Also next time instead of using your supposed logic try using facts.
If there is something you dont understand please ask.
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I love the idea of patterning ourselves in the Idaho model.
Play football in the Sun Belt while they compete in the Big Sky in every other sport.
Gosh, I wish we could become the next Idaho. Not.
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Originally Posted by
NorthernBison
I love the idea of patterning ourselves in the Idaho model.
Play football in the Sun Belt while they compete in the Big Sky in every other sport.
Gosh, I wish we could become the next Idaho. Not.
Dude, you still miffed at being wrong about MAC teams being on National tv?
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Originally Posted by
PaBizon
Dude, you still miffed at being wrong about MAC teams being on National tv?
Tuesday night games kick ass
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Originally Posted by
onbison09
Tuesday night games kick ass
You're funny ... Not
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How many schools in the MAC and MWC conferences are football only members?
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Originally Posted by
roadwarrior
How many schools in the MAC and MWC conferences are football only members?
Chea, but if we, the college football message board fans, keep talking about it and wish for it every night it will come true. It just has to!
Anyone remember all of the Big Sky talk when NDSU was moving up? That worked pretty well, huh?
At least we learned that it's the university presidents and ADs that make the decisions regarding expansion, not the message board fans.
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Originally Posted by
loudsilverado
I wish we were FBS
You have to say it three times while clicking your heels together.
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Originally Posted by
Bisonguy
Chea, but if we, the college football message board fans, keep talking about it and wish for it every night it will come true. It just has to!
Anyone remember all of the Big Sky talk when NDSU was moving up? That worked pretty well, huh?
At least we learned that it's the university presidents and ADs that make the decisions regarding expansion, not the message board fans.
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Yeah and if they dont invite us they are just scared of us and dont want the competition. etc etc etc
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Re: FBS move fans. Here's a good read
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Originally Posted by
BraxtonT
In this discussion, why is it generally assumed that the other sports like basketball have to also move? Why is it impossible to imagine the Summit League teams remaining in that conference with the coaches salaries not changing. IF the football program moves up, wouldn't affiliate membership into an existing FBS League (MAC, MWC, Sunbelt, etc...) seem more economically feasible?
Just look 70 miles north. Hakstol gets paid according to the peers in his sport, whereas all the other coaches up there are paid according to Big Sky levels.
Geography does not seem to be as big a hurdle for football as it is in other sports. As it is now, the only conference road games using a bus for football are down in South Dakota. Flying to Laramie, Muncie, or Statesboro would be similar to flying to Terre Haute or Youngstown.
With the SHAC project getting the go-ahead and Oral Roberts coming back, the Summit League seems like a good fit for the other sports to remain in. Other than basketball, does any significant percentage of Bison fans care who the volleyball, soccer, golf, track, etc... teams compete against? The Summit provides a good, stable home for the teams currently in it.
This discussion should only pertain to the football program at this time. No need to attach the others unless it is absolutely necessary to move all of the teams to the FBS conference. If that is the case, then this move up is NOT happening for 15+years minimum.
The Summit league is basically a bunch of FCS level schools. Why would the lets go FBS now lovers want only football to move to bigger and better things and leave the rest of the sports behind. If the football team moved to the MAC or the MWC why would we want the others to be left behind by not bringing them along. Don't the FBS now lovers think that what is good for football is good for all the schools sports??????? After all, if it's good for football it must be equally as good for the other athletics to go to a MAC or MWC, why not make NDSU a super power in all sports.
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Hell ya ndsu basketball should be in a better conf with a 40mill arena you pudville d2 old timeys enjoy frisco at fc Dallas trophy chasing vs jv squads its time for ndsu to form a traveling party to mountain west commissioners meeting in January
heres the contact info where is gabe at start the emails
www.themw.com
Mountain West Conference
10807 New Allegiance Drive, Suite 250
Colorado Springs, Colorado 80921
Phone: (719) 488-4040
Fax: (719) 487-7240
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Originally Posted by
SlickVic
Hell ya ndsu basketball should be in a better conf with a 40mill arena you pudville d2 old timeys enjoy frisco at fc Dallas trophy chasing vs jv squads its time for ndsu to form a traveling party to mountain west commissioners meeting in January
heres the contact info where is gabe at start the emails
www.themw.com
Mountain West Conference
10807 New Allegiance Drive, Suite 250
Colorado Springs, Colorado 80921
Phone: (719) 488-4040
Fax: (719) 487-7240
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Next time I see you giving a reach around and kissing some former players ass at tailgate I will remind you and them that you think they are playing JV ball. Should be interesting.
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Originally Posted by
1st&TennBison
The Summit league is basically a bunch of FCS level schools. Why would the lets go FBS now lovers want only football to move to bigger and better things and leave the rest of the sports behind. If the football team moved to the MAC or the MWC why would we want the others to be left behind by not bringing them along. Don't the FBS now lovers think that what is good for football is good for all the schools sports??????? After all, if it's good for football it must be equally as good for the other athletics to go to a MAC or MWC, why not make NDSU a super power in all sports.
Well, in theory we can win the national championship and be the best in the country in the Summit. NDSU cannot do that in football.
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i dont go to ndsu games until they are fbs those former athletes like warren wish we were fbs just ask them
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Not going to NDSU games won't make us go FBS any faster lol
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Originally Posted by
SlickVic
i dont go to ndsu games until they are fbs those former athletes like warren wish we were fbs just ask them
I will ask them what they think of people who think they play JV ball. I will then direct them to you. Which I will do right in front of you. Just so there is no misinterpretation. We will see if you have the nuts to talk that shit to players face. As a matter of fact I hope some of the older players are around for this also.
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Originally Posted by
1st&TennBison
What I said was that nobody outside of the fans of those schools watches, I never said anything about how many people watch. Do you really think that if we were FBS next year and we were playing ISU blue and the game was on Fox that we are going to get the same number of viewers that Ohio St and Michigan will have. Or do you think that the fans of other teams who are playing are going to say fuck watching my team, NDSU is on I'm gonna watch that instead.
Isub is now fbs?
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Originally Posted by
SlickVic
Hell ya ndsu basketball should be in a better conf with a 40mill arena you pudville d2 old timeys enjoy frisco at fc Dallas trophy chasing vs jv squads its time for ndsu to form a traveling party to mountain west commissioners meeting in January
heres the contact info where is gabe at start the emails
www.themw.com
Mountain West Conference
10807 New Allegiance Drive, Suite 250
Colorado Springs, Colorado 80921
Phone: (719) 488-4040
Fax: (719) 487-7240
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Ummm, NO. D2, JV - wow- have another beer with SD.
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Perfectly stated PL
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Originally Posted by
56BISON73
I will ask them what they think of people who think they play JV ball. I will then direct them to you. Which I will do right in front of you. Just so there is no misinterpretation. We will see if you have the nuts to talk that shit to players face. As a matter of fact I hope some of the older players are around for this also.
Make sure you point them at the poser rather than the poster.
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Originally Posted by
MNLonghorn10
Isub is now fbs?
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No they are not, and neither were we when we played on FOX against K St. Who our opponent is has nothing to do with it, the point is, how many people across the country know and watch NDSU football. The answer is not that many when your compared to the likes of Ohio St and teams similar to them.
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Originally Posted by
PaBizon
You're funny ... Not
Yeah he is pretty funny, just because a team got on national tv does not mean they belong on national tv. What are the ratings of those mid week football games, I know for sure that they are not as good as the ones played on Saturdays. So when NDSU plays a Tues-Wed home game on Fox against some Miami OH with lots of empty seats because the fans who live 150+ miles away have to go to work the next day or kids can't go because the game lasts until midnight your going to be impressed with all those empty seats on national TV.
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Originally Posted by
SlickVic
Hell ya ndsu basketball should be in a better conf with a 40mill arena you pudville d2 old timeys enjoy frisco at fc Dallas trophy chasing vs jv squads its time for ndsu to form a traveling party to mountain west commissioners meeting in January
heres the contact info where is gabe at start the emails
www.themw.com
Mountain West Conference
10807 New Allegiance Drive, Suite 250
Colorado Springs, Colorado 80921
Phone: (719) 488-4040
Fax: (719) 487-7240
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You're an idiot!
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Originally Posted by
SlickVic
but you small timers get to goto fc dallas again GOOOOOOOOAAAAALLLLLLL.
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Originally Posted by
SlickVic
you pudville d2 old timeys enjoy frisco at fc Dallas trophy chasing vs jv squads
Slick,
Is Lakes going to Frisco this weekend?
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Originally Posted by
BisonTeacher
Slick,
Is Lakes going to Frisco this weekend?
Or Lakes is slick going to Frisco? Or same thing?
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Originally Posted by
daddy daycare
Or Lakes is slick going to Frisco? Or same thing?
BINGO - :biggrin:
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The more I think about this FBS stuff the more I think FCS is the best place for us. I'll admit that I'm disappointed in the competition level in FCS, but if we would move to FBS we would end up playing in a mediocre conference playing mediocre teams that won't be any more recognizable than the teams we currently play. We would still be considered insignificant compared to the major BCS teams and would have a tough time funding the programs year after year.
Really, a move to a mid-level conference would essentially put us right where we are now. The best case scenario is for the non-BCS teams to have their own division and then we try to join up with them. That is where we really belong.
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Originally Posted by
daddy daycare
Or Lakes is slick going to Frisco? Or same thing?
That was kind of my point. :biggrin:
