A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by 56BISON73

Bingo

But for some reason some need to keep beating a dead horse.

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We keep beating the same horse and putting the thought into our fan base that staying FCS will be the downfall of our program if we do not move to the FBS immediately. All this and we know we don’t have and slam dunk options or even any imminent invites on the foreseeable horizon. The attitudes on this board are what is dragging down this program!!!!!

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

Now we get to hear that NDSU would "go 8-4 every year" yet at the same time "playing in a conference worse than the valley"

Thanks Sic

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8-4ish isn't an unrealistic average. 9 FCS championships but "only" 3 unbeaten seasons. If you think we'll get 2 P5 games annually, expect to lose a majority to the P5 that are willing to schedule us. That's ok, because 8 wins easily gets us a (probably crappy) bowl game and in the running for conference champ.

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Originally Posted by B.Schlossman Fan Club

We keep beating the same horse and putting the thought into our fan base that staying FCS will be the downfall of our program if we do not move to the FBS immediately. All this and we know we don’t have and slam dunk options or even any imminent invites on the foreseeable horizon. The attitudes on this board are what is dragging down this program!!!!!

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No one is putting that thought into the fanbase. The fanbase is making that decision on their own. Individual fans, one at a time. It's been happening for years.

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Originally Posted by BigLakeBison

No one is putting that thought into the fanbase. The fanbase is making that decision on their own. Individual fans, one at a time. It's been happening for years.

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Well we are screwed then, better prepare yourself for FCS forever……

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Originally Posted by taper

8-4ish isn't an unrealistic average. 9 FCS championships but "only" 3 unbeaten seasons. If you think we'll get 2 P5 games annually, expect to lose a majority to the P5 that are willing to schedule us. That's ok, because 8 wins easily gets us a (probably crappy) bowl game and in the running for conference champ.

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Lol you’re making my point. In this scenario we’re playing high level P5 schools that will beat us more often than not (bucking the historical trend). Couple days ago it was only Toledo and Tulsa because the big schools wouldn’t play us and we’d all be bored.

Which is it?

FBS isn’t this made up fantasy land where everything is perfect like Lakes makes it out to be. Neither is it this place where everything is negative and we’ll all of the sudden be unsuccessful.

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Originally Posted by B.Schlossman Fan Club

Sounds like you are an advocate of a FBS WAC for the Bison to join!

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Not sure how you got a reference to the WAC when I had mentioned Fresno State, San Jose State, and San Diego State in the previous message.

Conference aside, I was just fantasizing about having Bison games close to me occasionally in the future.

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Originally Posted by NDSU92

Lol you’re making my point. In this scenario we’re playing high level P5 schools that will beat us more often than not (bucking the historical trend). Couple days ago it was only Toledo and Tulsa because the big schools wouldn’t play us and we’d all be bored.

Which is it?

FBS isn’t this made up fantasy land where everything is perfect like Lakes makes it out to be. Neither is it this place where everything is negative and we’ll all of the sudden be unsuccessful.

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I don't think we're disagreeing. A CUSA or MAC conference schedule isn't that different than MVFC and won't move the needle. We can either have a useless OOC schedule that gives us a good record but no chance at CFP, or a tough OOC schedule that we're going to take losses in.

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Originally Posted by taper

I don't think we're disagreeing. A CUSA or MAC conference schedule isn't that different than MVFC and won't move the needle. We can either have a useless OOC schedule that gives us a good record but no chance at CFP, or a tough OOC schedule that we're going to take losses in.

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I’d say we’re more or less on the same page

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Originally Posted by B.Schlossman Fan Club

We keep beating the same horse and putting the thought into our fan base that staying FCS will be the downfall of our program if we do not move to the FBS immediately. All this and we know we don’t have and slam dunk options or even any imminent invites on the foreseeable horizon. The attitudes on this board are what is dragging down this program!!!!!

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The panicked attitude is definitely a negative, and I'm glad our leaders aren't making a stupid knee jerk reaction.

We will move when the situation is right. This is a 20 year decision, not a 2 year jump until "something better" arises. Make the wrong move and you can be stuck like UMass and UConn. Its not something that can be forced either, the dominos have to fall our way. I do believe that will happen.

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Originally Posted by BigHorns

The panicked attitude is definitely a negative, and I'm glad our leaders aren't making a stupid knee jerk reaction.

We will move when the situation is right. This is a 20 year decision, not a 2 year jump until "something better" arises. Make the wrong move and you can be stuck like UMass and UConn. Its not something that can be forced either, the dominos have to fall our way. I do believe that will happen.

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The “panicked” attitude of turning into UMass or UConn? For all the references to them as this cautionary tale, neither would trade places with NDSU. Maybe football programs but not if it came with everything else. I’m more “panicked” about ending up like Youngstown St. than UMass or UConn. I’m not sure being “stuck” like UMass or UConn is any different than being “stuck” like us in FCS.