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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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El_Chapo
In order to get the number one seed, it’s quite simple. The Vikings need to win out and the Eagles need to lose out
Doesn’t matter much though. Vikes aren’t better than anyone. I doubt they win round one no matter who they play, and if they face Philly, 49ers or Dallas they will get humiliated
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
Happy 30th birthday on the 30th Carson!
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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pucknut9
Happy 30th birthday on the 30th Carson!
Cheers and many more Carson!
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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I’ve seen this list across several tweets. I really hope CW leads them to victory the next 2 games and then at least 1 playoff win.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
CalBison97
This guy's point works equally well if it said Taylor Heinicke. Cue 56's trolling meme.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
Carson really doesn’t fit in this list. He has passed for over 22k yards and was once an mvp candidate. None of the rest of these fools have had really any good years. Everyone keeps spewing in the media that he only had on good year with Philly which is completely false. He was good in 17-19 as he had two years over 101 in rating and a really good third year with Over 4K and no wrs.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Bison Chief
This guy's point works equally well if it said Taylor Heinicke. Cue 56's trolling meme.
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Sorry for quoting my own post but when has the NFL not had a starting QB problem? There just aren't that many Mahomes, Rodgers, and Bradys. If you have 7 more names to add in my list of there-aren't-that-many-more-of-these-guys that's great but I think Carson slots somewhere just behind them.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Bison Chief
Sorry for quoting my own post but when has the NFL not had a starting QB problem? There just aren't that many Mahomes, Rodgers, and Bradys. If you have 7 more names to add in my list of there-aren't-that-many-more-of-these-guys that's great but I think Carson slots somewhere just behind them.
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I think Wentz is a top 20 QB and that's pretty good. The issue he may run into going forward is several teams don't value QBs in that range that highly, and I don't blame them.
If you don't have a top 10 QB or a QB on a rookie deal, you're pretty much stuck in purgatory. QBs like Carr, Wentz, Cousins, Jimmy G, and Goff (I'd argue Watson, Tua, and Kyler are in this category too) are good enough to start and get you to the playoffs, but they need a strong team around them and don't really mask glaring weaknesses that teams have. If you're on a rookie deal, there is more money (~30 million) to build the rest of the team up. If you lock in a mid tier QB to 30+mil, that is several quality starters that are likely out the door as a result. If you draft well, you can make it work, but it's rare in today's game with freaks like Allen and Mahomes on the opposing sidelines.
I'm a lifelong Bengals fan and the 2011-now Bengals capture this really well. Andy Dalton was outstanding for a 2nd round pick making relative peanuts, because they could devote resources to the defensive side of the ball and his line. Once he got his 2nd deal (a great deal for the team IMO) they had to scale back the WR room and lost some key linemen. He was still fine and like Carson, had an outlier MVP caliber season derailed by injury (seriously, he was that good in 2015). He played well enough to keep them in contention for the playoffs most years, and things were fine. As he got older and more expensive, the roster around him got worse, partly due to being a fringe playoff team each year forcing their picks lower each year. Things finally bottomed out and we were just bad enough to luck into Joe Burrow. Burrow is going to get very expensive, but he has already shown he can make up for glaring deficiencies that Dalton couldn't. He was sacked more than any QB in NFL history last year and they were a minute away from winning the superbowl. He's evolved this year to get the ball out quicker when his line is struggling and he's gone long stretches without Higgins, Chase, Hurst, and a ground game.
Next 2 games are huge for Wentz, but even if he plays well, I'm not sure he has a big money deal waiting for him in the offseason. Best case for him is probably to play well, get Washington to the playoffs, and he comes back on his existing deal. It would essentially be year to year for him, since the guaranteed money is done, but his current salary for next year is likely more than he could get on the open market.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
Big bird this is what I have always said as well that he fits in that 10-20 range. He has just been more highly criticized in my opinion than others like jimmy g. Dalton is a good example but he had a 2-1 td to int ratio whereas Wentz is almost three to one. As someone mentioned earlier some of wentz have been at some bad times and get overblown. I would at dak to that list as well. Wentz needs to go somewhere with a decent line on a cheaper deal and he will do just fine.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
Man, Wentz just threw an absolutely terrible pick. Stared McLaurin down, McLaurin was blanketed, and threw it right to Denzel Ward
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
uff....not a good start...throws a 2 yrd swing pass over the RBs head then throws a horrible pick. Crowd already chanting "Heinicke"
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
Not good at all. This will not serve him well in the off-season if he can’t recover.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
Good lord...why do OCs get so stupid on short yardage?
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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RonMexico
Good lord...why do OCs get so stupid on short yardage?
That was a terrible play call, and blocked up even worse
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Big Bird
That was a terrible play call, and blocked up even worse
Just makes no sense. You got a QB that avgs 90% conversion and 3rd and 4th and one and a RB who averaging like 85% conversion on short yardage and you call a pitch sweep to your backup running back? How do these guys have jobs?
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
Wentz might have just ended his career with another absolutely brutal interception. Horrible.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
KC_Hats
Wentz might have just ended his career with another absolutely brutal interception. Horrible.
Yep. I don’t expect him in another series.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
RonMexico
Good lord...why do OCs get so stupid on short yardage?
LOL, I only come back for the excuses. And you people never disappoint.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
I'm surprised he is going back in. He has looked terrible today.
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Yep. I don’t expect him in another series.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Snowgoose
Yep. I don’t expect him in another series.
It's not his fault. It's the organization, the offensive line, the receivers, the coaches, the coordinators, etc. C'mon man, don't you know that yet? Just has the worst luck of any QB of all time being in 3 different teams with just horrible people and players in every stop. Meanwhile, the guy who replaced him in Philly is kind of ok. Guess he overcame the terrible stuff in that org.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Wolfie
LOL, I only come back for the excuses. And you people never disappoint.
What was funny about it? A toss sweep to your backup running back on 4th and 1 is a good play call?
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Wolfie
LOL, I only come back for the excuses. And you people never disappoint.
WTF are you talking about? You're either not watching, or just dumb.
The play we were talking about really had nothing to do with Wentz. It was 4th and 1 and they called a slow developing run to the backup RB that was absolutely blown up.
Wentz has played like shit thus far and nobody has made an excuse for him on here.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
RonMexico
What was funny about it? A toss sweep to your backup running back on 4th and 1 is a good play call?
Probably why Carson is a backup and not a starter. Bad playcalls on every team he's played for in the NFL.
Just horrible luck.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Big Bird
WTF are you talking about? You're either not watching, or just dumb.
The play we were talking about really had nothing to do with Wentz. It was 4th and 1 and they called a slow developing run to the backup RB that was absolutely blown up.
Wentz has played like shit thus far and nobody has made an excuse for him on here.
"nobody has made an excuse for him on here"
Not yet...lmao, read this board before?
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Wolfie
Probably why Carson is a backup and not a starter. Bad playcalls on every team he's played for in the NFL.
Just horrible luck.
You know, Carson can be a bad QB and the OC can make a bad play call. Two things can be true at the same time. Unless you're trying to say that if Carson was a better QB that toss sweep would have worked.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Wolfie
"nobody has made an excuse for him on here"
Not yet...lmao, read this board before?
Yeah, and no one has made any excuses for his play today. He's thrown two horrible pick and made two horrible passes on swings to the RB. Not a good game so far at all and it's all on him. No one else.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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RonMexico
Yeah, and no one has made any excuses for his play today. He's thrown two horrible pick and made two horrible passes on swings to the RB. Not a good game so far at all and it's all on him. No one else.
So you don't read the board. Got it.
This thread should be called, "Reasons why Carson isn't the MVP of the NFL every year"
But, he will throw a good pass for a TD and Chapo will orgasm twice, and everyone else on here will talk about how Carson is the GOAT and I've been wrong about him for years.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Wolfie
So you don't read the board. Got it.
This thread should be called, "Reasons why Carson isn't the MVP of the NFL every year"
I agree with you that the excuse wagon for Wentz is a big one on here but again, I said no one TODAY has made any excuses. Please show me where TODAY someone had tried to blame his poor play on someone or something else. And calling out a bad play call is not making an excuse. That would have been a bad play call if Patrick Mahomes was back there as well.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Wolfie
So you don't read the board. Got it.
This thread should be called, "Reasons why Carson isn't the MVP of the NFL every year"
But, he will throw a good pass for a TD and Chapo will orgasm twice, and everyone else on here will talk about how Carson is the GOAT and I've been wrong about him for years.
Chapo is a dumbass...who cares what he thinks. He still thinks Darius Shepard would be in the NFL it it wasn't for Rodgers.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Wolfie
Probably why Carson is a backup and not a starter. Bad playcalls on every team he's played for in the NFL.
Just horrible luck.
You are utterly insufferable.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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WeAreThePride
You are utterly insufferable.
I know, common sense is the worst. And if you live in reality? Double horrible terrible time.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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WeAreThePride
You are utterly insufferable.
Stop engaging with the fucking troll guys, Jesus lol
Great effort to get them to a halftime lead! Just win baby!!!
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
KC_Hats
Wentz might have just ended his career with another absolutely brutal interception. Horrible.
QBs get boatloads of chances in the NFL. If Commanders move on from him he'll go sonewhere else or be a top backup.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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NDSU92
Stop engaging with the fucking troll guys, Jesus lol
Great effort to get them to a halftime lead! Just win baby!!!
A 21 play drive....
Don't believe I've ever seen that.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
WENTZ IS BACK. love that td and spike and stare at the crowd like... "ILL DO IT WITHOUT YOU"
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
How are people watching this game?
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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CAS4127
How are people watching this game?
Snuck into my ex-inlaws and watching on the Sunday Ticket
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Wolfie
I know, common sense is the worst. And if you live in reality? Double horrible terrible time.
Common sense. U know common sense says wentz has had some bad luck and has struggled. They can both happen. To say he is terrible is ridiculous. He had some really good years. He is obviously struggling mightily this year which some is on him and some is horrible oline play.
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
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Originally Posted by
Snowgoose
Common sense. U know common sense says wentz has had some bad luck and has struggled. They can both happen. To say he is terrible is ridiculous. He had some really good years. He is obviously struggling mightily this year which some is on him and some is horrible oline play.
When did I say he was terrible? I'll hang up and listen
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Re: What sort of thread have you made for us? A Wentz thread, if you can keep it.
Sunday NFL Ticket on DirecTV
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CAS4127
How are people watching this game?
