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Tulsa and Toledo offer nothing more than what NDSU currently brings in. Crowds will be the same, tailgating the same. Nobody getting up and screaming for 4 quarters or no big ticket demand like you believe. JMU would, but it would be a fraction of the excitement/intensity of the playoff games with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by El_Chapo
Both of those schools are fine. The main thing is, across the board, the G5 differences are better than FCS. You might say "oh no one cares about Toledo. " 20 years ago, no one in ND could have told you anything about Northern Iowa, Western Illinois, or Youngstown State.Quote:
Originally Posted by daddy daycare
The playoffs are about to get rather stale. Nearly every serious football program east of the Mississippi River has moved up.
NDSU has had some great playoff games. Basically every single one of those teams has moved on. If the playoffs are exciting at this point, it means we are either playing South Dakota State or NDSU has taken a sizeable step back.
As opposed to Indiana State and Western Illinois? And I hate to break it to you, but those JMU playoff games ain't coming back...Quote:
Originally Posted by daddy daycare
Let's play a game, pick your least favorite schedule:
vs Drake
vs NC A&T
at Arizona
vs Youngstown State
at Indiana State
vs South Dakota State
vs Illinois State
at Western Illinois
at Southern Illinois
vs North Dakota
at Oregon State
at New Mexico
vs Tennessee Martin
at UTEP
vs San Diego State
vs Fresno State
at Air Force
vs Colorado State
vs Brigham Young
at Nevada
at Wyoming
vs Utah State
vs Long Island University
vs Massachusetts
at Ohio State
at San Diego State
vs Central Michigan
at Northern Illinois
vs Kent State
at Buffalo
at Eastern Michigan
vs Ball State
vs Bowling Green
at Western Michigan
at Arkansas
vs Kennesaw State
vs Miami-Ohio
vs Indiana
at Tulsa
vs USF
at SMU
vs Navy
vs ECU
at Temple
vs Tulane
Yeah....I agree. I personally don't think the FargoDome will ever see the GSU/JMU atmosphere again. I also agree with you about Toledo or Tulsa types "being fine." That doesn't mean it would be great like some people are leading to believe around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness
Or...let's play a game called reality is a bitch. Edit: home games in the last 2 schedules wouldn't bring the atmosphere you'll see on 10/15 (OK I'll give you Indiana who perpetually sucks and USF).Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
Also, no shit the JMU playoffs games are never coming back. We will never see that again in the Dome. FCS or FBS....Montana, SDSU in the semis, or UND in a playoff game. That's it. When they go FBS, it'll be alright but not the JMU level.
Tell me NDSU's record against those four schedules (NDSU's, Boise's, Toledo's, Cincy's).Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
I'll start, you'll be 10-1 (Bunnies) against your schedule.
You’re the one bringing up the JMU playoff games. They’re gone, no use crying about it anymore. There is exactly two people who I consider to be NDSU fans that *might* pick our FCS schedule over any of those three others.Quote:
Originally Posted by daddy daycare
If we’re being honest, BYU, San Diego State, Indiana, Navy and Fresno State are all bigger draws for me than playing a team that goes 8-3 every year but has 4-5 trick plays and a bunch of wrinkles for us when we play in the regular season. And then gets trampled when it actually matters. Hell this year Tulane does more for me than South Dakota State.
I don’t understand your reality is a bitch statement. You always say our FCS schedule would draw better than an FBS one (without your precious little South Dakota state). It’s just not true… the three other conference schedules I took were from the best team in the conference. Which means that these schedules are conservative. There’s still the best team in the conference as another opponent (Boise, Toledo, Cincy)
And even if SDSU was the biggest possible draw for us. It doesn’t help the rest of the schedule that is bad, old and stale. That Arizona game a few weeks back was the best thing for our fan base in a long time. That is the future, not slapfighting with teachers colleges.
Go look at Sagarin… his algorithm predicts better than anyone on this site. You’re going to quickly get into “give us 22 more scholarships and $X million more dollars” territory thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Sicatoka
We already lost to Arizona so if you’re implying we lose to the bunnies we’d be 9-2
In my mind you didn't lose to 'zona, your OC forgot what was working and quit on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
Reality is a bitch because you can't just make up a F'ing schedule. Those schedules are made up and based on conference affiliation and FBS scheduling, which, obviously NDSU doesn't have.Quote:
Originally Posted by NDSU92
I'm not saying the FCS schedule is going to outdraw the FBS one. All I'm saying is...depending on which conference NDSU ends up in....for a big portion of the NDSU fan base it doesn't matter. Read the game thread from YSU and talking about the white hairs sitting on their asses not cheering. Ya think that's gonna change when Toledo comes rolling in? Cmon. Those fans aren't going anywhere.
And BTW...EL CHAPO was the one that brought up JMU, along with Toledo and Tulane...neither of which will get me to Fargo for a game anymore than whatever "teacher school" is on the docket. If schools like that get your dander up so be it.