A new and better FBS thread

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Originally Posted by runtheoption

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si....model-favorite

Find the effing prom date. Fuck FCS.

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About time all you douchenozzles caught up with my post from 2 days ago.

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

Amen.

#1 You win the Mountain West you have a good shot at the AUTO Q
#2 You should be able to snag a #10-12 spot if you don't get the Auto Q

that's 2-3 chances at a National Title for all the people that whine about the Bowl Games...
PLUS you have a shot at Bowl Games in better locations than Frisco and Brown Grass.

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There is not generally gonna be more than one G5. There is shot at getting two on occasion but I wouldn't count on it.

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

https://www.inforum.com/bison-media-...ee-NDSU-go-FBS

I’m sorry, but if the American is REALLY looking for FB-only, all logic would point to NDSU. The Fargo-MSP I94 corridor has way more viewing eyes than Idaho (5.6M in MN + 0.8M in ND vs. 1.8M in spudville) and the Bison have a much higher FB ceiling than Boise (and they play on a green field like normal people). NDSU’s research profile – on the verge of another major jump I’m told – also blows the smurf turfs away. There’s clearly a G5 vacuum in these parts and NDSU is the ONLY school around that could conceivably fill it. Win-win for everyone. Who gives a shit if the Bison are FCS. It has no bearing on the reality of the issues involved, just the frail egos of the MWC fan boys. Mountain West sucks, Craig Thompson is an idiot – straight to the American baby!!

Sounds like almost everyone’s on board at this point?

MM - "A move to FBS would take strong backing of the university's president and there's no indication Bresciani, 61, supports such a move or is willing to take on the task as he presumably inches toward retirement."

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that parts of the AD are openly lobbying it while the admin is extremely 'No Comment' tells me its a done deal. The only thing that gives me doubt is that NDSU scheduled an FCS home and home

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

https://www.inforum.com/bison-media-...ee-NDSU-go-FBS

I’m sorry, but if the American is REALLY looking for FB-only, all logic would point to NDSU. The Fargo-MSP I94 corridor has way more viewing eyes than Idaho (5.6M in MN + 0.8M in ND vs. 1.8M in spudville) and the Bison have a much higher FB ceiling than Boise (and they play on a green field like normal people). NDSU’s research profile – on the verge of another major jump I’m told – also blows the smurf turfs away. There’s clearly a G5 vacuum in these parts and NDSU is the ONLY school around that could conceivably fill it. Win-win for everyone. Who gives a shit if the Bison are FCS. It has no bearing on the reality of the issues involved, just the frail egos of the MWC fan boys. Mountain West sucks, Craig Thompson is an idiot – straight to the American baby!!

Sounds like almost everyone’s on board at this point?

MM - "A move to FBS would take strong backing of the university's president and there's no indication Bresciani, 61, supports such a move or is willing to take on the task as he presumably inches toward retirement."

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Not sure how NDSU has an actual higher ceiling than Boise. Boise has NY6 wins. A track record of success at the FBS level. And a demonstrably larger fanbase than NDSU.

NDSU going FBS may get some more casuals to become fans, but I don't think a bunch of folks in Minnesota are going to suddenly become NDSU stans.

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Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness

Not sure how NDSU has an actual higher ceiling than Boise. Boise has NY6 wins. A track record of success at the FBS level. And a demonstrably larger fanbase than NDSU.

NDSU going FBS may get some more casuals to become fans, but I don't think a bunch of folks in Minnesota are going to suddenly become NDSU stans.

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I'm trolling BSU/MWC fans in that post in case you missed it, but I don't see any reason why NDSU couldn't have the same kind of success at that level. It's much more than MN and there a lot of teams recruiting the West Coast.

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Originally Posted by runtheoption

About time all you douchenozzles caught up with my post from 2 days ago.

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Agitated RTO is best RTO.

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Originally Posted by heffray

Agitated RTO is best RTO.

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I'm not agitated. I'm disappointed that I am always the smartest guy in the room. You poor bastards.

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Originally Posted by runtheoption

About time all you douchenozzles caught up with my post from 2 days ago.

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Hey! Watch who you are calling a douchenozzle, douchenozzle! :mad:

A douchenozzle is a slimy, rigid (or semi-rigid :paperbag: ) appendage that is constantly .......... through all means possible .............. attempting to get itself inserted into a ........... :confused::confused: ......... ??? .......



Oh My God, I AM a douchenozzle!!!

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Originally Posted by runtheoption

I'm disappointed that I am always the smartest guy in the room.

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If the room is an outhouse.

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Originally Posted by Answer Guy

If the room is an outhouse.

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I’ve seen 3-seaters, and he may prefer those—none of my business if he does.


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Originally Posted by CAS4127

I’ve seen 3-seaters, and he may prefer those—none of my business if he does.


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Ah yes, the group poop. Those were the days man

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Originally Posted by CAS4127

I’ve seen 3-seaters, and he may prefer those—none of my business if he does.


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CAS is very progressive.

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

Ah yes, the group poop. Those were the days man

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Very economical if you’re on a budget.

How is there 2 new threads about FBS when this thread has it all since 2014

LETS FFFF GO

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

How is there 2 new threads about FBS when this thread has it all since 2014

LETS FFFF GO

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Because there isn’t enough FBS talk currently that’s how. Needs to happen! Let’s F’n Go!!

It should be a fireable offense that this hasn't happened . 2 TOP 3 NFL players 120-9 w 8 titles or whatever.

embarrassing actually

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Originally Posted by heffray

Very economical if you’re on a budget.

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No doubt. I worked at a Y camp for several years that had outdoor plumbing, at least for us. It was the dawn of the wellness craze and they hired these two hippy cooks. Nice couple, very healthy food. But when you’ve been eating starch all winter at college and everybody eats whole grains and vegetables at once … I can't remember if they were 3 or 4 across. When the campers were in they were gendered of course. We had to clean them too

Have to be patient on the FBS thing, but the 12-team playoff will likely accelerate realignment. I’m looking forward to the FCS football the Bison will play in the meantime. The season is closer than it seems

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

No doubt. I worked at a Y camp for several years that had outdoor plumbing, at least for us. It was the dawn of the wellness craze and they hired these two hippy cooks. Nice couple, very healthy food. But when you’ve been eating starch all winter at college and everybody eats whole grains and vegetables at once … I can't remember if they were 3 or 4 across. When the campers were in they were gendered of course. We had to clean them too

Have to be patient on the FBS thing, but the 12-team playoff will likely accelerate realignment. I’m looking forward to the FCS football the Bison will play in the meantime. The season is closer than it seems

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Patient? it's been 8-9 years!!!

I believe patients locks us in the FCS forever. There has to be a sense of calculated urgency in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by 23Bison

I believe patients locks us in the FCS forever. There has to be a sense of calculated urgency in my opinion.

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Theyve been locked in the FCS since before you even cared about this subject. NCAA will not grant them a waiver to go independent and no FBS conference has any interest in sending them an invite.
Now this can change if NDSU had a major influx of money. But everyone clamoring for the move up is too lazy to be a billionaire. And honestly it would be easier for you to become a billionaire than it would for NDSU to get an invite to an FBS conference. So the only reason NDSU isn’t FBS is because many of you are lazy and refuse to put in the effort to become a billionaire. So thanks a lot

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Originally Posted by SamsRams

Theyve been locked in the FCS since before you even cared about this subject. NCAA will not grant them a waiver to go independent and no FBS conference has any interest in sending them an invite.
Now this can change if NDSU had a major influx of money. But everyone clamoring for the move up is too lazy to be a billionaire. And honestly it would be easier for you to become a billionaire than it would for NDSU to get an invite to an FBS conference. So the only reason NDSU isn’t FBS is because many of you are lazy and refuse to put in the effort to become a billionaire. So thanks a lot

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What’s the large influx of money needed for? Coaches salaries? 44 additional scholarships? Both are easily covered by increased ticket revenue and TV money.

If you’re thinking it’s for increasing our endowment/capital expenditures we just raised like half a billion dollars for that.

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Originally Posted by SamsRams

Theyve been locked in the FCS since before you even cared about this subject. NCAA will not grant them a waiver to go independent and no FBS conference has any interest in sending them an invite.
Now this can change if NDSU had a major influx of money. But everyone clamoring for the move up is too lazy to be a billionaire. And honestly it would be easier for you to become a billionaire than it would for NDSU to get an invite to an FBS conference. So the only reason NDSU isn’t FBS is because many of you are lazy and refuse to put in the effort to become a billionaire. So thanks a lot

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How can you be so sure El Chapo isn't a billionaire? You know, oil money and stuff that "we got". :)

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Originally Posted by SamsRams

Theyve been locked in the FCS since before you even cared about this subject. NCAA will not grant them a waiver to go independent and no FBS conference has any interest in sending them an invite.
Now this can change if NDSU had a major influx of money. But everyone clamoring for the move up is too lazy to be a billionaire. And honestly it would be easier for you to become a billionaire than it would for NDSU to get an invite to an FBS conference. So the only reason NDSU isn’t FBS is because many of you are lazy and refuse to put in the effort to become a billionaire. So thanks a lot

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There is a huge difference in “locked in the FCS” and “Glad to be here”. We play for championships is what NDSU says. If the proposal was approved then that’s an opportunity to play for a championship at the highest level which was supposedly a reason we haven’t persued FBS before. Going independent would be a huge mistake at this point because the independent schools, including Notre Dame, have no guaranteed AQ so would always be fighting to get in as an at large every year. NDSU needs to in the worst way get super whorish and talk to every conference possible and say they are looking to move up and sell it as a football only member or if say the MAC wanted a full member. Getting in is key, and conference doesn’t matter. Get in, make some noise for a few years and follow the stars killing giants along the way.

I think our chances of getting into FBS have never been lower. We needed to make the push when we had something to offer. We beat Iowa; we had our umpteenth FCS championship; we had a couple ESPN Gamedays in town. We were all the buzz. And nothing else really remarkable was going on in FBS. But now, you've got serious discussion of a 12 team playoff with multiple paths into the 12-team mix. No FBS conference members are going to want to add NDSU and dillute the chances of themselves making it into the playoffs. What's more, in the event some conference IS open to new membership, we'll now be competing for that slot with several other FCS teams that are attracted to the new playoff format. Those of you who wanted things in FBS to be perfect before making the move, that's precisely when such a move is no longer available to a team like us.

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Originally Posted by Professorbum

I think our chances of getting into FBS have never been lower. We needed to make the push when we had something to offer. We beat Iowa; we had our umpteenth FCS championship; we had a couple ESPN Gamedays in town. We were all the buzz. And nothing else really remarkable was going on in FBS. But now, you've got serious discussion of a 12 team playoff with multiple paths into the 12-team mix. No FBS conference members are going to want to add NDSU and dillute the chances of themselves making it into the playoffs. What's more, in the event some conference IS open to new membership, we'll now be competing for that slot with several other FCS teams that are attracted to the new playoff format. Those of you who wanted things in FBS to be perfect before making the move, that's precisely when such a move is no longer available to a team like us.

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If a G5 conference is serious about maximizing their playoffs chances they should WANT to add a highly competitive program like NDSU. If each G5 conference got an autobid I could agree with your position but with only one G5 team getting into the playoff (under the current proposal) these G5 leagues are going to be competing with each other trying to put together the best non-conference resumes and stack the most quality teams together in one conference so they can further impress during the conference season. I think a 12 team playoff puts NDSU is in a better position to find an FBS conference not a worse one.

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Originally Posted by SamsRams

Theyve been locked in the FCS since before you even cared about this subject. NCAA will not grant them a waiver to go independent and no FBS conference has any interest in sending them an invite.
Now this can change if NDSU had a major influx of money. But everyone clamoring for the move up is too lazy to be a billionaire. And honestly it would be easier for you to become a billionaire than it would for NDSU to get an invite to an FBS conference. So the only reason NDSU isn’t FBS is because many of you are lazy and refuse to put in the effort to become a billionaire. So thanks a lot

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Case in point the major bitcher never donated a nickle to TM until he was required to to get season tickets. Even at that he gives the minimum. 50.00.
And bitches about that.Yet he is the one who complains the most that NDSU doesnt wave the magic wand to move up to relieve his enormous case of penis envy.

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Originally Posted by 23Bison

There is a huge difference in “locked in the FCS” and “Glad to be here”. We play for championships is what NDSU says. If the proposal was approved then that’s an opportunity to play for a championship at the highest level which was supposedly a reason we haven’t persued FBS before. Going independent would be a huge mistake at this point because the independent schools, including Notre Dame, have no guaranteed AQ so would always be fighting to get in as an at large every year. NDSU needs to in the worst way get super whorish and talk to every conference possible and say they are looking to move up and sell it as a football only member or if say the MAC wanted a full member. Getting in is key, and conference doesn’t matter. Get in, make some noise for a few years and follow the stars killing giants along the way.

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We all get the "get in idea" What do you do when there is no avenue to get in???? Its obvious at this juncture nobody wants NDSU. Or we would be there.

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Originally Posted by Professor Chaos

If a G5 conference is serious about maximizing their playoffs chances they should WANT to add a highly competitive program like NDSU. If each G5 conference got an autobid I could agree with your position but with only one G5 team getting into the playoff (under the current proposal) these G5 leagues are going to be competing with each other trying to put together the best non-conference resumes and stack the most quality teams together in one conference so they can further impress during the conference season. I think a 12 team playoff puts NDSU is in a better position to find an FBS conference not a worse one.

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You make a good argument, and I certainly hope you're right. But I just doubt it. I'd love to be wrong though.

It is and always has been driven by realignment. Something has to happen above us to create a spot. That has not happened in recent memory, no? Now it will. Buckle up

FB-only budget isn’t as much of a stretch as a full membership, and NDSU has appeal on many fronts, including geography. Sure its north but it’s central and accessible. If a G5 spot opens up for FCS, you can be sure that NDSU will be at the top of the list. I have no doubt about that, and I am confident that the AD knows this and is working on the finances. None of this means anything is guaranteed.

How feasible is it for a conference to sue to get in? I don’t think that’s a route anyone would want to go, but I’m looking at the whole WAC thing. I could see FBS/NCAA(??) agreeing if they got to pick the teams for such a new conference, but I think even that’s a stretch. They would want to take as few teams from FCS as possible.

You have to remember that there is no G5 team in MN, WI, SD, ND, IA, MT, and NE. Chew on that for a bit. It’s in the best interest of a G5 NDSU, as well as the hypothetical conference it would join (even the whole FBS) to keep that number low. I’m thinking one or two maybe.

People keep bringing up money, but look at what’s happening – during a pandemic – with NDSU’s private fundraising. Where do you think the phrase "in our hands" comes from? It's obviously being taken very seriously.

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Originally Posted by WhoRepsTheLurker

It is and always has been driven by realignment. Something has to happen above us to create a spot. That has not happened in recent memory, no? Now it will. Buckle up

FB-only budget isn’t as much of a stretch as a full membership, and NDSU has appeal on many fronts, including geography. Sure its north but it’s central and accessible. If a G5 spot opens up for FCS, you can be sure that NDSU will be at the top of the list. I have no doubt about that, and I am confident that the AD knows this and is working on the finances. None of this means anything is guaranteed.

How feasible is it for a conference to sue to get in? I don’t think that’s a route anyone would want to go, but I’m looking at the whole WAC thing. I could see FBS/NCAA(??) agreeing if they got to pick the teams for such a new conference, but I think even that’s a stretch. They would want to take as few teams from FCS as possible.

You have to remember that there is no G5 team in MN, WI, SD, ND, IA, MT, and NE. Chew on that for a bit. It’s in the best interest of a G5 NDSU, as well as the hypothetical conference it would join (even the whole FBS) to keep that number low. I’m thinking one or two maybe.

People keep bringing up money, but look at what’s happening – during a pandemic – with NDSU’s private fundraising. Where do you think the phrase "in our hands" comes from? It's obviously being taken very seriously.

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Realignment happened. It just didnt happen like most of us thought it would.

There was no realignment. There was no P5 split front the rest of FBS. Essentially nothing has happened at all but a proposal to give the G5 a way into the CFP. That’s pretty much all anyone ever wanted. A pathway to a championship or lack there of was a lot of people’s issue with pursuing an FBS move. From some looking listening and reading, this proposal is most likely going to happen and take affect 2024. Come on AD ML. Make the announcement.

it's been enough time, Bison Fatigue is here and NDSU has plateaud unfortunately .. especially the BUZZ and hype.

to recapture all of this, NDSU needs to go FBS and make some back room deal with mountain west. even be willing to cover football travel for conference foes or think outside the box

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Originally Posted by Professorbum

I think our chances of getting into FBS have never been lower. We needed to make the push when we had something to offer. We beat Iowa; we had our umpteenth FCS championship; we had a couple ESPN Gamedays in town. We were all the buzz. And nothing else really remarkable was going on in FBS. But now, you've got serious discussion of a 12 team playoff with multiple paths into the 12-team mix. No FBS conference members are going to want to add NDSU and dillute the chances of themselves making it into the playoffs. What's more, in the event some conference IS open to new membership, we'll now be competing for that slot with several other FCS teams that are attracted to the new playoff format. Those of you who wanted things in FBS to be perfect before making the move, that's precisely when such a move is no longer available to a team like us.

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NO SHIT. imagine with that 2013 team NDSU had. Making the jump then with Carson Wentz & Easton & Trey back to back.... those teams with extra schollies make a fucking run.

our admin screwed up, should've done this then

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

NO SHIT. imagine with that 2013 team NDSU had. Making the jump then with Carson Wentz & Easton & Trey back to back.... those teams with extra schollies make a fucking run.

our admin screwed up, should've done this then

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Please explain how admin screwed up when there is no invitations to join a FBS conference???

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Originally Posted by 56BISON73

Please explain how admin screwed up when there is no invitations to join a FBS conference???

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FOR THE 385859484TH TIME PL.... ADMIN HAS TO SELL NDSU TO FBS CONFERENCE AND SOLICIT FOR FUCKS SAKE.

they haven't

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Originally Posted by El_Chapo

FOR THE 385859484TH TIME PL.... ADMIN HAS TO SELL NDSU TO FBS CONFERENCE AND SOLICIT FOR FUCKS SAKE.

they haven't

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Bullshit......... You dont have the knowledge to make that assumption. Its nothing more than a false narrative. You were saying this same shit when GT was talking to the MWC. :facepalm: Just stop.

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Originally Posted by 56BISON73

Bullshit......... You dont have the knowledge to make that assumption. Its nothing more than a false narrative. You were saying this same shit when GT was talking to the MWC. :facepalm: Just stop.

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Not saying agree or disagree with you but with today’s social media availability I would find it hard for such talks or meetings to happen and nobody knowing about it and it getting out to media one way or another.

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Originally Posted by 23Bison

There was no realignment. There was no P5 split front the rest of FBS. Essentially nothing has happened at all but a proposal to give the G5 a way into the CFP. That’s pretty much all anyone ever wanted. A pathway to a championship or lack there of was a lot of people’s issue with pursuing an FBS move. From some looking listening and reading, this proposal is most likely going to happen and take affect 2024. Come on AD ML. Make the announcement.

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Then why was the P5 given autonomy?

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Originally Posted by 23Bison

Not saying agree or disagree with you but with today’s social media availability I would find it hard for such talks or meetings to happen and nobody knowing about it and it getting out to media one way or another.

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Most people in authority know how to keep their mouths shut and dont post information like this on social media.

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Originally Posted by 56BISON73

Please explain how admin screwed up when there is no invitations to join a FBS conference???

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Any examples in history, and specifically recent history, where an FCS school was invited to join an FBS conference without announcing their intentions to do so?
I'll hang up and wait.